Doing Drugs is not a Victimless crime

[Berzerker]

allow me to quote myself:

Of course you're a victim, but you said drug use is not a victimless crime and you're using drugs. So where is your victim?

Where is your victim? You've been using drugs, so you must have a trail of victims somewhere.

[Kidlicious]

stfu

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Berzerker
allow me to quote myself:



Where is your victim? You've been using drugs, so you must have a trail of victims somewhere.

Im man enough to stand up and take whats coming to me.

I thought you were referring to me in this instance.

Past drug use?

I treated my wife like dirt which is hard for me to forgive myself for.

I bought and sold drugs which in a few cases caused strained relationships because the money went up noses instead of into a better quality of life.

I bought Crack and PCP in Nanny Helen Burough(South East D C roughly near where the Redskins used to play ball at). years ago while living in DC, possibly causing someone to be arrested if they got caught.

I victimized my own body in addition to cocaine in powder form, it is cut with Manitol (baby Laxative) Inosotol (Hair supplement)

Smoked weed with who knows what was sprayed on it.

I almost committed suicide on several occassions because of bottoming out.

I have a trail of victims I am sure that is unending.

Many days I look into my soul and see what a frickin creep I was for using and selling.


Will that suffice to get you started Bezerker?

I am ashamed as a man as a human being and as a husband and dad, I felt like a piece of crap for doing it. I chose to so I could help mask the abuse I suffered as a child. I was wrong.

I cant take back it but will gladly fullfill your desire to know any details of my painful past.

Bruce K. Cronkite Not at all proud of the portion of his life

[Jon Miller]

I am sorry that I will not see you at the CON..

Get better soon.

Jon Miller

[Berzerker]

I'll spell it out, I was talking of illegal drugs which cause things such as what happened to me.

Hope this clears it up for you?

So there is no victim of your drug use, because its legal? No victims of slavery either because it was legal? What if someone under the influence of these drugs you're taking hits another car and leaves behind a victim, is that your victim too? I'll spell it out for you, smearing millions of people because some jack ass hit you is illogical and immoral. I tried to be polite about it by asking a simple question, but you turned that into some bizarre troll. Sorry you're in pain, but kindly dont blame me. I dont blame people who drink beer for the victims of drunk drivers...

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Berzerker
I'll spell it out for you, smearing millions of people because some jack ass hit you is illogical and immoral.

I'll spell it out for you. You're all jackasses. It's just that one of you caused an accident.

[Jon Miller]

He is saying that he sees this sort of thing over and over again. And that it is the result of the abuse of drugs.. not the use of drugs (as prescribed by a doctor). His OP is an example, not the entirety of his argument.

Jon Miller

[Berzerker]

I dont see any victim of your current drug use, Gramps. I asked where your victim is.

And Kid, grow up or change the channel

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Berzerker
And Kid, grow up or change the channel

That's good. You're telling me to grow up.

[Grandpa Troll]

I would like to apologize for the way this has started to turn. My intent was to help cause some reflection of the results that sometimes happen.

I meant to not be judgemental and in fact stated so.

Please accept my apologies

Gramps

[Berzerker]

I'll spell it out for you. You're all jackasses. It's just that one of you caused an accident.

Wow, I see you're a fan of collective guilt.. I suppose I'm a jackass for owning a gun too? Certainly I'm to blame for all the people killed with guns. Hey, I like ice cream. Buying the stuff helps keep the ice cream dealers in business, so now I'm to blame for all the people clogging their arteries. And the hypocrisy goes on...

JM, I know what he's been saying. He's a fan of collective guilt, I'm not. If y'all want to debate the virtues of collective guilt, I'm game. I just wonder how y'all would feel if a stranger blames you for what someone else did...and they dont give a **** that you're innocent.

[Berzerker]

dont worry bout it, Gramps. I'm an adult and I dont hold grudges. I apologise for making a federal case out of it, I originally offered my question with a smile on my face but the intent of my question got lost in translation.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Berzerker
Wow, I see you're a fan of collective guilt..

Call it whatever you like. There are a lot of people wacked out on Coke tonight driving around. According to you they're all innocent until they hit someone. The key word is "until."

[Berzerker]

And Kid, I'm damn near middle age. Not someone with "Kid" in my Poly name

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Kidicious
Call it whatever you like. There are a lot of people wacked out on Coke tonight driving around. According to you they're all innocent until they hit someone. The key word is "until."

You are absolutely, positively the KING of strawmen aren't you? Have you ever had a debate where you haven't engaged in that time honored logical fallacy?