Doing Drugs is not a Victimless crime

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Kidicious
People don't consider drug offenses victimless crimes. They don't listen to your symantics. They look at reality.

They look at propaganda. More and more people are wonder why in the world is marijuana illegal. Countries around the world are decriminalizing and legalizing it. The "stoner" movie has been around for a while now and the heros of those movies are those doing drugs (with hardly any negative effects happening to him).

I can restate your quote as this (say in the year 1980):

"People don't consider homosexuality a victimless crime. They don't listen to your symantics. They look at reality."
(or you can use 'pornography' or 'alcohol' or 'prostitution', etc)

And one can argue that it causes breakdown in the family, especially if they are married for years before they find out they are gay.

What people 'consider' to be victim crimes is wholy irrelevent. People considered George W. Bush to be worthy of continuing as President in 2004. Who cares what they think?

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
They look at propaganda.

err.. Except those with personal experience!

What people 'consider' to be victim crimes is wholy irrelevent.

And so the what people consider to be victimless crimes is also wholy irrelevent.

This is a matter of some people thinking it's ok to use drugs, because it doesn't hurt anyone, and others who can see the damage that using drugs does to society.

[Playful]

Gramps, Don't worry about the pissing contest these guys have gotten into. It isn't your fault they have decided to get into this. They took what you meant to say "Driving under the influence is not a victimless crime" and ran rampant with it. Not all people who drive under the influence get into accidents but those that do sure can not use the old saying "Drug Abuse is a victimless crime"

So Guys.. Just whip it out and compare who has the biggest "johnsons" and get it over with. Agree to disagree and get it over with already.

Gramps has suffered enough because of this bullsh*t and your need to see who can p*ss the farthest is getting beyond a joke. Go find some other thread to rant on about or go entertain yourself getting high.

[Berzerker]

People don't consider drug offenses victimless crimes. They don't listen to your symantics. They look at reality.

They employ collective guilt

Perhaps reading the 1st page of the post would have been in order before berzerker got his panties in a twist.

Thanks for the advice, but all I did was ask one simple question after reading the title and opening post.

Gramps, your message is valid...but some of us like to argue

[Kidlicious]

Honestly, I was trying to get you to stfu, before you made more of an ass out of yourself.

[Grandpa Troll]

Take a trip back to say 1988, Im in DC living and working (just outside D C living).
IOt didnt bother me then but I am older and a little wiser, but people with families bought drugs first ans the poor children went without.

Im not sure how many are family people here, but to watch a person "Jonesing" (really needing a fix) and just cussing and hollering because the parents forgot to get groceries or wash clothes.

I can still see some of the faces, I knock on door, come in, go to back bedroom, break out the Ohaus Triple Beams (use a dolar bill, weighs 1 gram) sell what they want and the scared look and frightened look on their faces.

But I was so cool and hip because I was the man, money maker.

I am damned ashamed of myself is what I am

[Playful]

Wow I need some tylenol after that last rant!

[Berzerker]

Gramps, the people who have turned your personal thread into a political debate don't deserve your replies.

Are we looking at the same title?

Doing Drugs is not a Victimless crime

Sounds political to me

This is a matter of some people thinking it's ok to use drugs, because it doesn't hurt anyone, and others who can see the damage that using drugs does to society.

What damage have I done to "society" by smoking pot? I suggest you read my sig before answering.

Not all people who drive under the influence get into accidents but those that do sure can not use the old saying "Drug Abuse is a victimless crime"

Sure they can, hitting someone while driving DUI was their crime.

[MrFun]

Berz; he created his thread in an emotional state, needing to rant. Forgive the dude for making a misleading thread title, and give him what is due . . . . . . .


sympathy.

[Playful]

Not all people who drive under the influence get into accidents but those that do sure can not use the old saying "Drug Abuse is a victimless crime" Did you see the word NOT in there?

NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT Good lord man.. take a dozen chill pills and get off your soap box. Pull the twisted panties outta the crack of your @$$ and give it a rest.

[Berzerker]

Kid

Honestly, I was trying to get you to stfu, before you made more of an ass out of yourself.

I dont think you're all that honest... honest. You smear millions of people and then run away when challenged and change the subject and start throwing strawmen around. I'm not impressed by your integrity...

Gramps, it looks to me like you've been using drugs along time to deal with pain. You aren't alone...

[Berzerker]

Berz; he created his thread in an emotional state, needing to rant. Forgive the dude for making a misleading thread title, and give him what is due . . . . . . .

Did that long ago, read for yourself

Not all people who drive under the influence get into accidents but those that do sure can not use the old saying "Drug Abuse is a victimless crime" Did you see the word NOT in there?

NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT Good lord man.. take a dozen chill pills and get off your soap box. Pull the twisted panties outta the crack of your @$$ and give it a rest.

People driving DUI who cause accidents can't say drug abuse is a victimless crime. Thats your bit of wisdom illuminating this otherwise bleak thread.

But they weren't using drugs, they were using drugs and driving a car on public roads running into other motorists. That has no bearing on whether or not drug use is a victimless "crime". But thanks for the advice again, the calm and rational manner you offered it convinced me to relax.

[Arrian]

I hope you feel better, GpT!

-Arrian

[Fake Boris]

We've had this discussion before, apparently Kid doesn't know the difference between drinking and drunk driving.

[Fake Boris]

On a related note, smoking marijuana behind the steering wheel reduces the risk of a crash.