A question for Communists

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
I haver another question for communists

In your ideal communist country, with you as president, would there be freedom of religion?

of course

JM

[Last Conformist]

JM is a commie?

I can't recall what the thing was called, but I read piece years ago that argued, rather convincingly as far as I could tell, that human beings don't have the neural capacity to handle the interactions of non-hierarchical organizations involving more than about 150 people. There was alot of comparison about how large groups can usefully cooperate in various primate species and how this related to brain size and communicative abilities, as well as plenty examples from various organizations (armies, companies, etc) that had a fundamental subdivision of 100-150 men or so.

Anyone know what I'm talking about?

[Jon Miller]

No, sounds interesting though...

I think I was really only a commie back in highschool and start of college. Right now I would say I am a socialist with communist sympathies.. But I do have my red days.

Jon Miller

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
I haver another question for communists

In your ideal communist country, with you as president, would there be freedom of religion?

Yes, of course.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Odin
I don't see a problem with managers. The employees (of a larger business) elects a board of directors, and the board of directors/small business employees hire the managers.

I don't think that would work well. The board members need to have a seperate interest from the employees.

[JohnT]

Originally posted by Odin
I don't see a problem with managers. The employees (of a larger business) elects a board of directors, and the board of directors/small business employees hire the managers.

Uh, not hardly.

The shareholders elect the Board of Directors, who then appoints the Officers (CEO, COO, CFO, President), whom hire the managers whom hire the workers.

Simplisticially, of course, but that's how it happens. The Board isn't responsible for the interests of the employees, but the interests of the shareholders.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I think Odin was talking about how Commie managers would come about.

[JohnT]

Ahhhh. I was wondering if I misread it, then I decided to be an ass anyway.

[Imran Siddiqui]

It's never wrong being an ass to Odin .

[JohnT]

[Kidlicious]

It's important for the board to be able to be objective. They can't be influenced too much by either management or employees.

[Kidlicious]

I don't think Communists need to work out the theoretical things like the difference between price and value. We need to work out the practical things like how to organize production effectively and efficiently. That's what really matters.

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
It's never wrong being an ass to Odin .

I'm surprised by the implication you think there is anyone to whom it's wrong to be an ass.

[Odin]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
It's never wrong being an ass to Odin .

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
In your ideal communist country, with you as president, would there be freedom of religion?

Yes, as much as I'd like to personally beat Fred Phelps with a tire iron. While it saddens me that people waste their time with religion, that's their choice (more or less).

Ideally, as the physical sources of people's desire for a better world after this vanish, there will be less religion, at least so say many Marxists. My personal theory is that religion will evolve to a much more communitarian form, rather like the evangelicals, though one hopes not so bloody reactionary.

I do think people need to be protected from exploitive cults, but I'm not sure how to accomplish that without infringing upon the freedom to think whatever the hell they want. A line needs to be drawn between the Jim Jones and The Church of Scientology, but where and how, I don't know.