Hunting Season has Begun!

[Donegeal]

"If'n"? I don't think you got to worry about much...

Anyway... time to make my first trip back down that road. Wonder how much of the smear is going to still be there...

[chequita guevara]

Has it rained recently?

Used to know a dude who hit a deer at 150mph on his motercycle.

[The Mad Monk]

Sometimes, even an encounter with whitetail deer can be lethal.

Deer that went through windshield claims driver
By CHRISTINE VENDEL
The Kansas City Star

Rashida T. Barber was headed to help her father at his flower shop on Easter — one of his busiest days — when a deer crashed through her windshield.

The entire animal ended up inside her 1994 Lexus, ramming its 6-inch antlers into her face and injuring three of her four children as it kicked and thrashed. The car skidded into a concrete barrier along southbound Interstate 435 near Front Street in Kansas City.

As the deer thrashed, it broke the nose, cheekbone and eye socket of Barber’s 11-year-old daughter in the back seat. Her sons, ages 10 and 6, suffered broken noses. A 4-year-old daughter was not hurt.

But Rashida Barber, 30, died from her injuries about 4:40 p.m. Thursday.

It was the deer, not the 1 p.m. crash, that killed her, said her former husband, David Barber of Independence. The couple divorced in 2002.

“The actual traffic accident wasn’t that bad,” he said. “But she suffered severe head trauma from the buck trying to get out of the car.”

David Barber said his older son threw himself onto his younger son to protect him. The children escaped, and the older boy called his father with a cell phone from the side of the highway.

“He told me his mom was hurt really bad,” David Barber recalled.

The deer eventually died in the front seat.

David Barber said his former wife often worked at her father’s flower shop in western Independence. A Kansas City, North, resident, she also worked as a bartender in Kansas City.

She also had done some local modeling and fashion shows for charity benefits, and was a good mother, he said.

Three of their children attended English Landing Elementary School in the Park Hill School District, but David Barber said he and his girlfriend planned to homeschool them to finish the year.

“We may have them attend their school for the last week, so they can say goodbye to their friends,” he said.

The children will attend school in Independence this fall, he said.

David Barber said he and his former wife shared custody. He now plans to raise the children with help from his girlfriend and relatives.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/local/14401929.htm

[Dinner]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Midwestern dear aren't safe to eat. They got type of prion disease.

A prion is a self replicating protein, isn't it? If so then why couldn't a prion be denatured by heat just as every other protein gets denatured by heat?

[Donegeal]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk
Sometimes, even an encounter with whitetail deer can be lethal.

Yeah... A couple more inches to the left and that deer would have hit me in the face, at 60 mph....

Oerdin, that's ah... some avatar you got there....

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Oerdin
A prion is a self replicating protein, isn't it? If so then why couldn't a prion be denatured by heat just as every other protein gets denatured by heat?

Dunno, it just doesn't. They've turned infected cows into ash, fed that ash to other cows, and those cows got mad cow. IIRC, they've heated prions to 3,000 degrees, and the material has still remained infectious.

[The Mad Monk]

I would like to see who funded that study.

[BlackCat]

Che is a little higher than needed - a 1000 degrees celcius is enough - though, it's still a very high temperature.

http://www.mad-cow.org/sep99_late_news.html

British beef was banned globally in 1996 over fears of mad cow disease. The 15-nation European Union authorized exports to resume to the bloc from August 1. Cattle carcasses have been put into storage because there is only one furnace in Britain capable of burning them at the required temperature of 1,000 degrees Celsius to destroy the disease.

[Arrian]

Glad you're ok, Donegeal! It's possible that, despite the irony of getting into an accident only once you decided to quit speeding, the drop in speed saved your life.

I say this, and I routinely do 15+mph over the limit (75-80 in 65 zones, 70-75 in 55s). I don't have a baby girl, though.

-Arrian

p.s. A cop getting a speeding ticket? Holy ****, that actually happens?!?! The cops here are some of the worst violators (speeding, failure to signal, tailgating) on the roads. Then again, you're in Wisconsin, where an ex-girlfriend of mine was once ticketed for going 58 in a 55.

[Donegeal]

On the contrary Arrian; in this particular situation, if I had been driving like I normally do, I'd have been past the point of impact before the deer got there!

Yes, yes... I know this isn't what you mean, but its still funny.

Yes cops get speeding tickets, but not that often. Its an unwritten guidline called "Professional Courtesy" (I'm not saying its right or wrong, I'm just saying that its there). It happens, yes, through the discretional powers given to the police. Before you jump all over me, just remember that every time a cop lets you go without a ticket with fines (ie gives you a written warning), he gave you a "discretional" break.

The cops around here actually don't speed very much, but there is alot of off-duty drinking and some do drive drunk. The scary thought is that when I went to the bars in my younger days, this is so common among everybody around here that I'm really impressed that ALOT more people aren't killed from drunks...

[GhengisFarb™]

Glad to see your aim is still good, donegeal.

[Arrian]

Yes cops get speeding tickets, but not that often. Its an unwritten guidline called "Professional Courtesy" (I'm not saying its right or wrong, I'm just saying that its there). It happens, yes, through the discretional powers given to the police. Before you jump all over me, just remember that every time a cop lets you go without a ticket with fines (ie gives you a written warning), he gave you a "discretional" break.

I'm actually fine with cops giving other cops some "professional courtesy." I've gotten warnings. I've gotten softened tickets (got a 15over when I was clocked at 80mph in a 55).

What irritates me is the way cops drive here when they're on duty, but not actively chasing anyone. It's just so blatantly "do as I say not as I do." They cruise around at 80mph, don't signal, tailgate, flip their lights on to run red lights (and then those lights go right back off)... etc. It doesn't exactly set a good example, ya know?

-Arrian

[Donegeal]

Get squad numbers, times, locations and complain (or even better, submit an anomous complaint to the local news paper). Be persistant about it too. That crap should not be happening while on duty. Cops should lead by example.

(note that I only (used to) speed when off duty)

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by Arrian


I'm actually fine with cops giving other cops some "professional courtesy." I've gotten warnings. I've gotten softened tickets (got a 15over when I was clocked at 80mph in a 55).

What irritates me is the way cops drive here when they're on duty, but not actively chasing anyone. It's just so blatantly "do as I say not as I do." They cruise around at 80mph, don't signal, tailgate, flip their lights on to run red lights (and then those lights go right back off)... etc. It doesn't exactly set a good example, ya know?

-Arrian

That's a bloody fact. One the other day didn't signal appropriately, was driving too bad for the hazards around him, and this is, supposedly, a professional driver. But a few weeks ago I was pulled up for doing 65 in a 50 and he had a right go, despite the fact this is the A2, a three lane dual carriageway with a hard shoulder and there is no way this road should be a 50!

[Arrian]

Originally posted by Donegeal
Get squad numbers, times, locations and complain (or even better, submit an anomous complaint to the local news paper). Be persistant about it too. That crap should not be happening while on duty. Cops should lead by example.

(note that I only (used to) speed when off duty)

Squad numbers? I suppose I could drive around with a pad & pen and have my wife write them down (are they on the cars?).

To be fair, it's nearly always the speeding, failure to signal (which is my personal pet peeve, not just with cops! Turn signals are not options on the vehicle, people! USE THEM!!) and tailgating. The turning on lights to run red lights is something I've not seen for a while, and I think that was Hartford PD... which I'm not likely to see again.

And, while it can be irritating, I suppose I should be thankful that the CT staties will generally give you 10-15mph over the limit (on the highway) w/o batting an eyelash.

If I do complain, I will include the fact that I've never seen a cop do *anything* about others' failure to signal. It's almost as if it's not a violation. Am I missing something there? There are days when I think I'm the only guy on the road who bothers.

-Arrian