Italian elections picture thread

[Datajack Franit]

I think she's into some Peta-like stuff

[Wernazuma III]

Originally posted by Datajack Franit

ALL of the most populated regions of the North of Italy had a majority of votes for Berlusconi. Also the richest and most populated of the South. We don't want to put in power a dictator or a thief, we're just fed up of incompetents treating us as cash-cows.

I can understand to some extent "fed-up" votes (Haider voters in Austria were much due to Socialist rule through decades). But this generally means being fed-up with the government. And the one who ruled the country over a good bunch of years now is Berlusconi if my memory doesn't fail.
To me, it makes little sense.


Also, I hope "throw away" illegal immigrants is an expression you chose by mistake.

[Sandman]

I've been hearing that one of the reasons for Italy's economic woes is that it failed to institute price controls when it converted to the euro, sparking rampant profiteering amongst retailers. Could the Italians here comment on this?

[Kassiopeia]

Originally posted by Spiffor

Just a quibble. The hardest work I ever did was when I worked for a politician (and I have sampled several kinds of employee or worker jobs). Among the people I know well, those who work in politics are among the most hardworking.

Ah, but they work in politician stuff. We all know that's not real work. *sigh*

[Datajack Franit]

Fantastic, now they found some 1,000,000 thrown away votes. Boxes full of votes abandoned right on the street. Berlusconi asked for a recount and President of Italy, Ciampi, refused to give Prodi the authorization for forming a new government until this clears up.

[Jon Miller]

Italy will show Florida how it is done right

JM

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
Italy will show Florida how it is done right

[Datajack Franit]

Spiffor, I found a map so you can figure out who's voting for Berlusconi



I find this map very funny as it shows I am living in the strongholds of both coalitions. Lombardia for the CDL, Emilia-Romagna for the Unione. My hometown (Varese) is the birthplace of the Lega Nord, while the city where I study (Bologna) is the Communist symbol of Italy.

And a graph- Prodi must be kicking himself to death for losing almost 20 points

I've been hearing that one of the reasons for Italy's economic woes is that it failed to institute price controls when it converted to the euro, sparking rampant profiteering amongst retailers. Could the Italians here comment on this?

Very easy. A pizza used to cost 10,000 lire. (4 dollars) Now it's 10 euros. A bus ticket, 1000 lire, 1 euro. A student's room in a shared apartment in Bologna, 300,000 lire. 300 euros. The average income, 2 million lire, 2000 euros.

The whole country went like this. There's who blames Berlusconi for not punishing who raised the prices (almost every single person in Italy I have to admit) and who blames Prodi as the inventor of the Euro.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
So, old geezers from brazil, argentina and USA who havent been to italy in half a century will decide who wins?

[snoopy369]

Re: Re: Italian elections picture thread

Originally posted by Wernazuma III


If it's only for the motto and what the candidates are famous for, this seems to be the best choice. Unless having been "mayor of Rome" in Italy already says something about one's character (as in: mayor of Chicago).

Hey, Mayor Daley is one of the best mayors ever. We Chicagoans are more than willing to overlook the occasional corruption if it means the city runs better and gets more cows...

Cows on Parade

[snoopy369]

When the prices went skyrocketing, what happened to wages? (IE, was this straight (wage+price) inflation, or just price inflation?)

I couldn't imagine having prices x2.5 nearly instantly, without wages going up at least x2 ... otherwise you'd have no-one to buy the products, and way too many starving etc. people (unless pre-Euro, Italy was a haven of overemployed people with high salaries ... )

[snoopy369]

Originally posted by Datajack Franit

Very easy. A pizza used to cost 10,000 lire. (4 dollars) Now it's 10 euros. A bus ticket, 1000 lire, 1 euro. A student's room in a shared apartment in Bologna, 300,000 lire. 300 euros. The average income, 2 million lire, 2000 euros.

The whole country went like this. There's who blames Berlusconi for not punishing who raised the prices (almost every single person in Italy I have to admit) and who blames Prodi as the inventor of the Euro.

Are these actually true countrywide though? Though Wiki may not be the best source, it indicates between 2.5 and 15% immediate increases, but otherwise a pretty solid inflation rate in line with EU norms, which is darned impressive all things considered (as Italy traditionally was an inflationary country, largely due to monetary policy) ...

Perhaps the lire-Euro or lire-dollar (or Euro-dollar) valuations were ultimately not in line with what was expected (particularly lire-Euro)?

Regardless, comparing wages to prices under lire and under Euro is the only real way to show this ...