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  • #31
    Originally posted by Wycoff


    RAtM is also racist, BTW.
    against whitey?
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by notyoueither
      RatM?
      Rage Against the Machine
      I'm about to get aroused from watching the pokemon and that's awesome. - Pekka

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Sava
        against whitey?
        Yeah, pretty much. Wasn't de la Rocha a member of La Raza? It's basically a fascist group, no different than a white person being invloved in a white supremecist group named Das Volk.

        EDIT: Interesting link: La Voz de Aztlan
        Last edited by Wycoff; March 17, 2006, 02:09.
        I'm about to get aroused from watching the pokemon and that's awesome. - Pekka

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        • #34
          Killing In The Name
          Killing in the name of!
          Some of those that were forces are the same that bore crosses
          Some of those that were forces are the same that bore crosses
          Some of those that were forces are the same that bore crosses
          Some of those that were forces are the same that bore crosses
          Huh!

          Killing in the name of!
          Killing in the name of

          And now you do what they told ya (11 times)
          But now you do what they told ya
          Well now you do what they told ya

          Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
          You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
          Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
          You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites

          Some of those that were forces are the same that bore crosses
          Some of those that were forces are the same that bore crosses
          Some of those that were forces are the same that bore crosses
          Some of those that were forces are the same that bore crosses
          Uggh!

          Killing in the name of!
          Killing in the name of

          And now you do what they told ya (4 times)
          And now you do what they told ya, now you're under control ( 7 times)
          And now you do what they told ya!

          Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
          You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
          Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
          You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
          Come on!

          (Guitar solo: 'Yeah! Come on!')

          **** you, I won't do what you tell me (8 times spoken becoming a shout by the 8th time)
          **** you, I won't do what you tell me! (8 times, shouted)
          Mother****er!
          Uggh!


          Rage Against The Machine lyrics
          Album: Rage Against The Machine [1992]
          Tracks 10
          01 Bombtrack
          02 Killing In The Name
          03 Take The Power Back
          04 Settle For Nothing
          05 Bullet In The Head
          06 Know Your Enemy
          07 Wake Up
          08 Fistful Of Steel
          09 Township Rebellion
          10 Freedom
          Back to Rage Against The Machine albums



          Bombtrack
          Ughh! Hey you, it's just another bombtrack...ughh!
          Hey you, it's just another bombtrack...yeah!
          It goes a-one, two three and
          It's just another bombtrack
          And suckas be thinkin' that they can fake this
          But I'm gonna drop it at a higher level
          'Cause I'm inclined to stoop down
          Hand out some beat-downs
          Cold runna train on punk ho's that
          Think they run the game
          But I learned to burn that bridge and delete
          Those who compete at a level that's obsolete
          Instead I warm my hands upon the flames of the flag
          As I recall our downfall
          And the business that burned us all
          See through the news and the views that twist reality
          Enough
          I call the bluff
          Manifest destiny

          Landlords and power whores
          On my people they took turns
          Dispute the suits I ignite
          And then watch 'em burn

          With the thoughts from a militant mind
          Hardline, hardline after hardline

          Landlords and power whores
          On my people they took turns
          Dispute the suits I ignite
          And then watch 'em burn

          Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn
          Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn
          Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn
          Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn
          Yes ya gonna burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn
          Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn
          Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn
          Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn

          It goes a-one, two, three
          Another funky radical bombtrack
          Started as a sketch in my notebook
          And now dope hooks make punks take another look
          My thoughts ya hear and ya begin to fear
          That ya card will get pulled if ya interfere

          With the thoughts from a militant mind
          Hardline, hardline after hardline

          Landlords and power whores
          On my people they took turns
          Dispute the suits I ignite
          And then watch 'em burn

          Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn
          Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn
          Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn
          Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn
          Yes ya gonna burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn
          Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn
          Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn
          Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn

          Euurrrggghhhhh!
          Uggh! Hey you, it's just another bombtrack...
          Check it out...

          Modified chorus
          Burn!back to top
          Killing In The Name
          Killing in the name of!
          Some of those that were forces are the same that bore crosses
          Some of those that were forces are the same that bore crosses
          Some of those that were forces are the same that bore crosses
          Some of those that were forces are the same that bore crosses
          Huh!

          Killing in the name of!
          Killing in the name of

          And now you do what they told ya (11 times)
          But now you do what they told ya
          Well now you do what they told ya

          Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
          You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
          Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
          You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites

          Some of those that were forces are the same that bore crosses
          Some of those that were forces are the same that bore crosses
          Some of those that were forces are the same that bore crosses
          Some of those that were forces are the same that bore crosses
          Uggh!

          Killing in the name of!
          Killing in the name of

          And now you do what they told ya (4 times)
          And now you do what they told ya, now you're under control ( 7 times)
          And now you do what they told ya!

          Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
          You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
          Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
          You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
          Come on!

          (Guitar solo: 'Yeah! Come on!')

          **** you, I won't do what you tell me (8 times spoken becoming a shout by the 8th time)
          **** you, I won't do what you tell me! (8 times, shouted)
          Mother****er!
          Uggh!back to top
          Take The Power Back
          Spoken: 'Crank the music up'

          Bring that **** in! Uggh!
          Yeah, the movement's in motion with mass militant poetry
          Now check this out...uggh!
          In the right light, study becomes insight
          But the system that dissed us
          Teaches us to read and write

          So called facts are fraud
          They want us to allege and pledge
          And bow down to their God
          Lost the culture, the culture lost
          Spun our minds and through time
          Ignorance has taken over
          Yo, we gotta take the power back!
          Bam! Here's the plan
          Mother**** Uncle Sam
          Step back, I know who I am
          Raise up your ear, I'll drop the style and clear
          It's the beats and the lyrics they fear
          The rage is relentless
          We need a movement with a quickness
          You are the witness of change
          And to counteract
          We gotta take the power back

          Yeah, we gotta take the power back
          Come on, come on!
          We gotta take the power back

          The present curriculum
          I put my fist in 'em
          Eurocentric every last one of 'em
          See right through the red, white and blue disguise
          With lecture I puncture the structure of lies
          Installed in our minds and attempting
          To hold us back
          We've got to take it back
          'Cause holes in our spirit causin' tears and fears
          One-sided stories for years and years and years
          I'm inferior? Who's inferior?
          Yea, we need to check the interior
          Of the system that cares about only one culture
          And that is why
          We gotta take the power back

          Yeah, we gotta take the power back
          Come on, come on!
          We gotta take the power back

          Hey yo check, we're gonna have to break it, break it, break it down
          Awww ****!
          Uggh!
          And like this...uggh!
          Come on, yeah! Bring it back the other way!
          The teacher stands in front of the class
          But the lesson plan he can't recall
          The student's eyes don't perceive the lies
          Bouning off every ****ing wall
          His composure is well kept
          I guess he fears playing the fool
          The complacent students sit and listen to some of that
          Bull**** that he learned in school

          Europe ain't my rope to swing on
          Can't learn a thing from it
          Yet we hang from it
          Gotta get it, gotta get it together then
          Like the mother****in' Weathermen
          To expose and close the doors on those who try
          To strangle and mangle the truth
          'Cause the circle of hatred continues unless we react
          We gotta take the power back

          Yeah, we gotta take the power back
          Come on, come on!
          We gotta take the power back

          No more lies (8 times, building to a crescendo)
          Uggh!
          Yeah!
          Take it back Joe
          Take it back, a-take it back
          A-take it back Joe, come on!
          Take it back Joe
          Take it back, a-take it back
          A-take it back Joe, come on!
          Uggh!
          Yeah!back to top
          Settle For Nothing
          A jail cell is freedom from the pain in my home
          Hatred passed on, passed on and passed on
          A world of violent rage
          But it's one that I can recognise
          Having never seen the colour of my father's eyes
          Yes, I dwell in hell, but it's a hell that I can grip
          I tried to grip my family
          But I slipped

          To escape from the pain in an existence mundane
          I gotta 9, a sign, a set and now I gotta name

          Read my writing on the wall
          No-one's here to catch me when I fall
          Death is on my side....suicide!

          A jail cell is freedom from the pain in my home
          Hatred passed on, passed on and passed on
          A world of violent rage
          But it's one that I can recognise
          Having never seen the colour of my father's eyes
          Yes, I dwell in hell, but it's a hell that I can grip
          I tried to grip my family
          But I slipped

          To escape from the pain in an existence mundane
          I gotta 9, a sign, a set and now I gotta name

          Read my writing on the wall
          No-one's here to catch me when I fall
          Caught between my culture and the system....genocide!

          Read my writing on the wall
          No-one's here to catch me when I fall
          If ignorance is bliss, then knock the smile off my face
          Yeah!

          If we don't take action now
          We settle for nothing later
          Settle for nothing now
          And we'll settle for nothing later

          If we don't take action now
          We settle for nothing later
          We'll settle for nothing now
          And we'll settle for nothing later

          If we don't take action now
          We'll settle for nothing later
          We settle for nothing now
          And we'll settle for nothing later

          If we don't take action now
          We settle for nothing later
          We'll settle for nothing now
          And we'll settle for nothing later

          Bullet In The Head
          This time the bullet cold rocked ya
          A yellow ribbon instead of a swastika
          Nothin' proper about ya propaganda
          Fools follow rules when the set commands ya
          Said it was blue
          When ya blood was red
          That's how ya got a bullet blasted through ya head

          Blasted through ya head
          Blasted through ya head

          I give a shout out to the living dead
          Who stood and watched as the feds cold centralised?
          So serene on the screen
          You was mesmerised
          Cellular phones soundin' a death tone
          Corporations cold
          Turn ya to stone before ya realise

          They load the clip in omnicolour
          Said they pack the 9, they fire it at prime time
          The sleeping gas, every home was like Alcatraz
          And mutha ****as lost their minds

          Just victims of the in-house drive-by
          They say jump, you say how high
          Yeah
          Just victims of the in-house drive-by
          They say jump, you say how high
          Run it!

          (Guitar solo)

          Just victims of the in-house drive-by
          They say jump, you say how high
          Just victims of the in-house drive-by
          They say jump, you say how high

          Check-a, check-a, check it out
          They load the clip in omnicolour
          Said they pack the 9, they fire it at prime time
          The sleeping gas, every home was like Alcatraz
          And mutha ****as lost their minds

          No escape from the mass mind rape
          Play it again jack and then rewind the tape
          And then play it again and again and again
          Until ya mind is locked in
          Believin' all the lies that they're tellin' ya
          Buyin' all the products that they're sellin' ya
          They say jump and ya say how high
          Ya brain-dead
          Ya gotta ****in' bullet in ya head

          Just victims of the in-house drive-by
          They say jump, you say how high
          Yeah
          Just victims of the in-house drive-by
          They say jump, you say how high

          Uggh! Yeah! Yea!

          Ya standin' in line
          Believin' the lies
          Ya bowin' down to the flag
          Ya gotta bullet in ya head

          Ya standin' in line
          Believin' the lies
          Ya bowin' down to the flag
          Ya gotta bullet in ya head

          A bullet in ya head (8 times, building to a shout)
          A bullet in ya head (7 times, shouted/screamed)
          Ya gotta bullet in ya ****in' head!
          Yeah!
          Yeah! (Sustained to end of drum roll)back to top
          Know Your Enemy
          Huh!
          Yeah, we're comin' back then with another bombtrack
          Think ya know what it's all about
          Huh!
          Hey yo, so check this out
          Yeah!
          Know your enemy!

          Come on!

          Born with insight and a raised fist
          A witness to the slit wrist, that's with
          As we move into '92
          Still in a room without a view
          Ya got to know
          Ya got to know
          That when I say go, go, go
          Amp up and amplify
          Defy
          I'm a brother with a furious mind
          Action must be taken
          We don't need the key
          We'll break in

          Something must be done
          About vengeance, a badge and a gun
          'Cause I'll rip the mike, rip the stage, rip the system
          I was born to rage against 'em

          Fist in ya face, in the place
          And I'll drop the style clearly
          Know your enemy...Know your enemy!

          Yeah!

          Hey yo, and dick with this...uggh!
          Word is born
          Fight the war, **** the norm
          Now I got no patience
          So sick of complacence
          With the D the E the F the I the A the N the C the E
          Mind of a revolutionary
          So clear the lane
          The finger to the land of the chains
          What? The land of the free?
          Whoever told you that is your enemy?

          Now something must be done
          About vengeance, a badge and a gun
          'Cause I'll rip the mike, rip the stage, rip the system
          I was born to rage against 'em

          Now action must be taken
          We don't need the key
          We'll break in

          I've got no patience now
          So sick of complacence now
          I've got no patience now
          So sick of complacence now
          Sick of sick of sick of sick of you
          Time has come to pay...
          Know your enemy!

          Come on!
          Yes I know my enemies
          They're the teachers who taught me to fight me
          Compromise, conformity, assimilation, submission
          Ignorance, hypocrisy, brutality, the elite
          All of which are American dreams (8 times)back to top
          Wake Up
          Come on!
          Uggh!
          Come on, although ya try to discredit
          Ya still never edit
          The needle, I'll thread it
          Radically poetic
          Standin' with the fury that they had in '66
          And like E-Double I'm mad
          Still knee-deep in the system's ****
          Hoover, he was a body remover
          I'll give ya a dose
          But it'll never come close
          To the rage built up inside of me
          Fist in the air, in the land of hypocrisy

          Movements come and movements go
          Leaders speak, movements cease
          When their heads are flown
          'Cause all these punks
          Got bullets in their heads
          Departments of police, the judges, the feds
          Networks at work, keepin' people calm
          You know they went after King
          When he spoke out on Vietnam
          He turned the power to the have-nots
          And then came the shot

          Yeah!

          Yeah, back in this...
          Wit' poetry, my mind I flex
          Flip like Wilson, vocals never lackin' dat finesse
          Whadda I got to, whadda I got to do to wake ya up
          To shake ya up, to break the structure up
          'Cause blood still flows in the gutter
          I'm like takin' photos
          Mad boy kicks open the shutter
          Set the groove
          Then stick and move like I was Cassius
          Rep the stutter step
          Then bomb a left upon the fascists
          Yea, the several federal men
          Who pulled schemes on the dream
          And put it to an end

          Ya better beware
          Of retribution with mind war
          20/20 visions and murals with metaphors

          Networks at work, keepin' people calm
          Ya know they murdered X
          And tried to blame it on Islam
          He turned the power to the have-nots
          And then came the shot

          Uggh!
          What was the price on his head?
          What was the price on his head!

          I think I heard a shot (5 times)
          I think I heard, I think I heard a shot

          Background: 'Black nationalism'
          'He may be a real contender for this position should he
          abandon his supposed obediance to white liberal doctrine
          of non-violence...and embrace black nationalism'
          'Through counter-intelligence it should be possible to
          pinpoint potential trouble-makers...'
          'And neutralise them'

          Wake up! Wake up! Wake up! Wake up!
          Wake up! Wake up! Wake up! Wake up!

          Spoken: "How long? Not long, 'cause
          what you reap is what you sow."
          Jon Miller-
          I AM.CANADIAN
          GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Wycoff


            Yeah, pretty much. Wasn't de la Rocha a member of La Raza? It's basically a fascist group, no different than a white person being invloved in a white supremecist group named Das Volk.

            uhh

            their politics are pretty left wing... they played at an anti-Nazi benefit in 1994 and have always done things for peace causes and stuff

            and I think the other 3 of the members of the former ratm are white... I'm looking at a picture of them right now

            Morello might be a mix of some sort

            or just really tan
            To us, it is the BEAST.

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            • #36
              But the OP wasn't against all whites either...

              and I did say that RAtM was almost as agressive as the OP

              JM
              Jon Miller-
              I AM.CANADIAN
              GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Sava
                uhh

                their politics are pretty left wing... they played at an anti-Nazi benefit in 1994 and have always done things for peace causes and stuff

                and I think the other 3 of the members of the former ratm are white... I'm looking at a picture of them right now

                Morello might be mix of some sort
                Maybe I'm interpreting something different in their lyrics, but I never got the impression that their lyrics were aimed solely at the "Capitialist Oppressors;" there seems to be a distinct racial undercurrent, especially in songs like "People of the Sun" and "Take the power back." I have a problem with people who lump all whiteys into one big group. If I'm wrong about them then I'm wrong, but I'm not certain that I'm wrong.

                Why did Morello and la Rocha split?
                I'm about to get aroused from watching the pokemon and that's awesome. - Pekka

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                • #38
                  Her parents should be arrested for corrupting the morals of their own child. Kids learn their hatred from the parents.
                  "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
                  "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
                  2004 Presidential Candidate
                  2008 Presidential Candidate (for what its worth)

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Jon Miller
                    But the OP wasn't against all whites either...

                    and I did say that RAtM was almost as agressive as the OP

                    JM
                    IThe whole "white people are devils and should be gone" part is pretty clearly racist.
                    I'm about to get aroused from watching the pokemon and that's awesome. - Pekka

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                    • #40
                      well, let's face it

                      while the poor whites have had it pretty bad from the Capitalist Oppressors, the other races have had it worse...

                      JM
                      Jon Miller-
                      I AM.CANADIAN
                      GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Jon Miller
                        well, let's face it

                        while the poor whites have had it pretty bad from the Capitalist Oppressors, the other races have had it worse...

                        JM
                        So what? Doesn't mean that the poor whites deserve to be hated.

                        I'm sympathetic about the plight of the poor of all races in this country. When it turns to dividing entitlement by race, however, I get defensive. I don't want to help someone who hates me for who I am.
                        I'm about to get aroused from watching the pokemon and that's awesome. - Pekka

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                        • #42
                          yeah but what does SHE know about it?

                          What did you or me do about it? Nothing.

                          So why is she starting **** over nothing, that doesn't concern us? Because it's popular.
                          In da butt.
                          "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Wycoff


                            So what? Doesn't mean that the poor whites deserve to be hated.

                            I'm sympathetic about the plight of the poor of all races in this country. When it turns to dividing entitlement by race, however, I get defensive. I don't want to help someone who hates me for who I am.
                            But I don't see RAtM say anything against all whites..

                            just say that the skin color of those who did it was white

                            and I think that is all the OP has said also

                            JM
                            Jon Miller-
                            I AM.CANADIAN
                            GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Jon Miller
                              But I don't see RAtM say anything against all whites..

                              just say that the skin color of those who did it was white

                              and I think that is all the OP has said also

                              JM
                              No, the white devil remark is clearly racist. There's no way to spin that.
                              I'm about to get aroused from watching the pokemon and that's awesome. - Pekka

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                              • #45
                                that isn't in the poems

                                so yes, she is racist... but I don't think the poems are

                                JM
                                Jon Miller-
                                I AM.CANADIAN
                                GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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