Watching Topless Woman Bathe is required for potential immigrants to the Netherlands

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Locutus
So if you have a fundamental problem with toplessness for whatever reason, you're really living in the wrong country if you live in the Netherlands.

I have a fundamental problem with hairy men showing their ass crack. That doesn't mean I shouldn't live in America. That's my choice.

[Datajack Franit]

If you put bombs in places where hairy men's asses hang around, that's a problem.

[alva]

Originally posted by Gibsie
They showed footage of the topless woman clip on the channel 4 news this evening- at 7p.m.! It's like we in England don't consider nipples to be inherently sinful, or something...

They show male frontal nudity here in the afternoon, don't start thinking you're there just yet.

[Master Zen]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


Okay, I skimmed through the file.

I noticed that it uses GDP per capita to calculate income. This is very bad. The average income does not begin to show you the true picture unless it is a strongly socialist country. In these third world countries income is skewed, there are a few very rich people with a massive underclass that is dirt poor.

We need to look at the median income, or better yet, both the median and the mode, to start getting a true picture.

Economics 101:

The study includes data from the Gini index. For your information the Gini index classifies income inequality and thus shows a far clearer picture of the income structure for those countries involved. GDP p/capita + Gini is a far better indicator than median income.

Even if the Gini index wasn't used, GDP per capita is THE most widely used an accepted single index to rank wealth.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Last Conformist
"Alternate attempt"? It's the reigning paradigm, ferchrissakes!

"Paradigm" is one of those words that flags the "don't trust this person" signal.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Master Zen
The study includes data from the Gini index. For your information the Gini index classifies income inequality and thus shows a far clearer picture of the income structure for those countries involved. GDP p/capita + Gini is a far better indicator than median income.

Indicator of what? Income spread? Possibly. The Gini Index tells you about the gap in income, right, but not actually what most of the population makes. For example, the US also has a high Gini Index - highest among developed countries - but even its poor are much more affluent than those in the Third World Countries.

Originally posted by Master Zen
Even if the Gini index wasn't used, GDP per capita is THE most widely used an accepted single index to rank wealth.

That's not an argument. You have to show why it is a sound measurement. I have shown that why it isn't. The ball is now in your court.

[Master Zen]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Indicator of what? Income spread? Possibly. The Gini Index tells you about the gap in income, right, but not actually what most of the population makes. For example, the US also has a high Gini Index - highest among developed countries - but even its poor are much more affluent than those in the Third World Countries.

The median income also doesn't tell you "what most of the population makes", only what the guy in the middle earns. Likewise the mode which you mentioned in your original post is also not without its flaws since the number that most people make might not necessarily be proportional to the size of the sample when there's very large differences in income.

You're basically dissing a study just because it disproves the point you were making. If you want to also prove that the idea that the majority of terrorists come from middle class incomes, you better also back it up.

That's not an argument. You have to show why it is a sound measurement. I have shown that why it isn't. The ball is now in your court.

You haven't shown a better alternative either. In economics there's no such thing as the perfect indicator and many times we have to use proxy measurements to substitute for otherwise unobservable factors. GDP per capita + Gini is a far better better indicator than just plain median income in a study like this since the gini variable is controlling for income disparity in unequal countries.

-MZ

[Sandman]

Why bother with questionnaires when you can just use public art?

90ft naked Dundee woman

[mrG]

Originally posted by Japher
Crazy dutch

bas op japhertje bas op!!!

[alva]

Who's bas? Never heard of him.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Datajack Franit
If you put bombs in places where hairy men's asses hang around, that's a problem.

It's the assumption that I will do that that is prejudice.