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[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by notyoueither
I'm conflicted.

There need to be standards or a HS diploma loses meaning.

On the other hand, a person who can't get it after 6 or 7 tries pretty obviously has a learning disability. Given that lack of a HS diploma can have a marked effect on the rest of that person's life, is it fair to withhold the diploma?

It depends on what her tries were like.

If she really tried, and still couldn't pass, then she should have been listed as learning disabled (and then would have passed).

Jon Miller

[KrazyHorse]

As well it should.

Listen, if I'm hiring people to work at my hypothetical warehouse, both of whom have basic HS diplomas, but only one of whom can do some simple algebraic operations which would make him a lot more useful when it comes to keeping track of inventory and warning me when it gets low, don't you think I deserve to be able to spot the difference based on some sort of certificate?

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly


A HS degree has already lost all meaning, and not through any fault of the poor students. Why penalize them?

It has meaning for some employers.

Lack of even a basic diploma indicates a quiter, or someone with other serious problems.

The end result is a lot more closed doors.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
As well it should.

Listen, if I'm hiring people to work at my hypothetical warehouse, both of whom have basic HS diplomas, but only one of whom can do some simple algebraic operations which would make him a lot more useful when it comes to keeping track of inventory and warning me when it gets low, don't you think I deserve to be able to spot the difference based on some sort of certificate?

Math is important to me. I ask applicants what their HS grade was because I know that simply passing isn't good enough.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
A lack of a College diploma these days will now also impact hiring prospects.

Yes it will, and you can get a degree with zero math classes.

[KrazyHorse]

Allowing the standards to creep downwards because we don't want to hurt any single individual is exactly what got us to where we're at currently.

[notyoueither]

I think that it is possible to allow people the benefit of the education system without requiring algebra.

You can prepare someone for trades without requiring acedemic track studies.

[Dinner]

If someone is to stupid to understand something as simple as algebra then they should be sterilized for the good of the species.

[KrazyHorse]

I think that would be a great idea. But the idea of a trades track put people off, and now everybody gets the same damn diploma. If they get the same diploma they should be held to the same standards. Otherwise the diploma is truly meaningless.

[KrazyHorse]

Xpost. Seriously.

[Dinner]

Admit it. You loved it you little Nazi.

[KrazyHorse]

You got me.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
I think that would be a great idea. But the idea of a trades track put people off, and now everybody gets the same damn diploma. If they get the same diploma they should be held to the same standards. Otherwise the diploma is truly meaningless.

Last I heard, we had matriculation, basic diplomas, and a trades track (totally different schools with more classes oriented towards trades).

I don't know about CA.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither


Last I heard, we had metriculation, basic diplomas, and a trades track (totally different schools with more classes oriented towards trades).

Then is this girl in the trades track or the diploma program?

If she's in the diploma program, then why the hell shouldn't she learn algebra?

Oh, and as far as QC goes, that's not true.

HS is pretty uniform. CEGYP is where things diverge.

[notyoueither]

Damn good question.