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  • Originally posted by notyoueither


    How many prostitutes have been found dead in a dumpster, or in a field, where he is from lately?
    THos instances are why I call for legalization and regulation. Far too many women engage in the trade and are hiding/hidden from police. heck nobody notices how or why they disappeared. Its only when a LOT go missing that people take notice.

    The shadowy secretive trade is a predator's dream world.
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    • Oh and Mrfun and others

      Does anyone have any data respecting the Nevada legal trade? Anecdotally we have stuff about the Amsterdam trade and I have no reason to dispute the portrayal but I don't believe it is necessarily the way a legal trade must look.

      Are criminal elements in control of the Nevada brothels? Are there stories of sex slavery, abuse etc ?
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      • How many prostitutes have been found dead in a dumpster, or in a field, where he is from lately?
        How many prostitues are not reporting abuse to police due to being afraid of being charged themselves?
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        • Originally posted by binTravkin

          How many prostitues are not reporting abuse to police due to being afraid of being charged themselves?
          I'm betting that neither girls that are abused, beaten robbed . . .. or customers that are beaten or robbed are that likely to go to the police for that reason. I bet the predators on one side and the scam artists on the other count on this.

          In the Nevada brothels, are there prostitutes beaten up? I bet they would actually have decent security. I also would guess that not many escorts go missing when they go to a reputable hotel.

          I would think that the vast majority of those that face major abuse are those picking guys up in the street or bringing them home. In either case the customer can be unknown and anonymous.

          I don't know these things or have stats to back them up but it simply makes sense to me that the girls would be safer if they had a safer place or way to practice the trade that they do anyway.

          So spare me the moralizing since guess what . . . somewhere in North America I bet a prostitute got murdered today
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          • Originally posted by notyoueither


            How many prostitutes have been found dead in a dumpster, or in a field, where he is from lately?
            I've never visited Cybershy in his country, so you will have to ask him.
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            • Originally posted by Flubber

              Oh and a disproportionate number of rape counsellors have themselves been raped or sexually abused. Is this a reason to find this job morally reprehensible?

              WTF?? I don't understand this statement at all.
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              • Originally posted by MrFun



                WTF?? I don't understand this statement at all.
                well one of cybershy's comments was that a disproportionate number of people in porn and prostitution had been sexually abused or raped .

                I happen to know that there are a disproportionate number of rape and abuse victims among those that choose to be a rape counsellor as their profession.

                If the fact that a profession attracts rape and abuse victims is a negative, wouldn't it be considered a negative for all professions that attract them?
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                • Originally posted by Flubber


                  well one of cybershy's comments was that a disproportionate number of people in porn and prostitution had been sexually abused or raped .

                  I happen to know that there are a disproportionate number of rape and abuse victims among those that choose to be a rape counsellor as their profession.

                  If the fact that a profession attracts rape and abuse victims is a negative, wouldn't it be considered a negative for all professions that attract them?
                  What kind of an inane point is this?


                  Who is saying that rape and abuse victims are BAD people who are not deserving of being counselors to help similar victims??
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                  • Legalize it, and unionize 'em.
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                    • Originally posted by MrFun


                      What kind of an inane point is this?


                      Who is saying that rape and abuse victims are BAD people who are not deserving of being counselors to help similar victims??
                      Don't be obtuse. Nobody said anything close to that.

                      My quote was quite clear-- read it again.
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                      • Originally posted by Flubber
                        Oh and Mrfun and others

                        Does anyone have any data respecting the Nevada legal trade? Anecdotally we have stuff about the Amsterdam trade and I have no reason to dispute the portrayal but I don't believe it is necessarily the way a legal trade must look.

                        Are criminal elements in control of the Nevada brothels? Are there stories of sex slavery, abuse etc ?
                        did you not read my posts. My posts specifically referred to the Nevada trade. it's much better than the Dutch. Though it should be noted it's much less prevailent. I'm sure the Dutch have more whores than we do. . Because we don't actually have any brothels in the cities. So we only have a few hundred prostitutes I'd imagine. And only a small portion of those are working at any given time.

                        There is no organized crime. Though this might not be because it is legal. But only because the brothels can only be found in small towns. Abuse is rare, but does happen. In fact, The Motley Crue singer (Vince Neil) was accused of beating up a whore in a northern Nevada brothel. I'm not sure what ever became of that case. She may have only been after his money in a lawsuit.

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                        • Originally posted by Ramo
                          Legalize it, and unionize 'em.

                          As long as the first customer in the door doesn't have to go with wrinkled old Big Bertha since she has "seniority"
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                          • Originally posted by Dis


                            did you not read my posts. My posts specifically referred to the Nevada trade. it's much better than the Dutch. Though it should be noted it's much less prevailent. I'm sure the Dutch have more whores than we do. . Because we don't actually have any brothels in the cities. So we only have a few hundred prostitutes I'd imagine. And only a small portion of those are working at any given time.

                            There is no organized crime. Though this might not be because it is legal. But only because the brothels can only be found in small towns. Abuse is rare, but does happen. In fact, The Motley Crue singer (Vince Neil) was accused of beating up a whore in a northern Nevada brothel. I'm not sure what ever became of that case.
                            I did read your posts but like cybershy's it was all anecdotal. I wondered if anyone had any hard data or articles at hand. The second set of questions were mainly rhetoric, since, based on your posts I was pretty confident of what the answers would be.

                            Oh and I know some abuse will happen. I'd bet you could find that there are murders and assaults inside churches, grocery stores, family restaurants-- To expect none in a brothel would be naive
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                            • legalize
                              To us, it is the BEAST.

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