Brainwashing 101

[Nostromo]

This is related to the Danish cartoon and the Holocaust denial cases. Its all about free speech, really.

http://onthefencefilms.com/video/bw101/

I'm not sure what to think about this movie. What do you think?

On the one hand, I'm quite leery about the whole anti-political correctness movement. Its a two-edged sword. Often, its basically a license to be mean, ill-informed and stupid. OTOH, they have a point: free speech is important and someone should protect and defend it. Maybe we should follow Max Weber's advice, and leave politics out of the class room?

[chequita guevara]

[Japher]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara

[CrONoS]

http://www.onthefencefilms.com/movies

Dead Meat (2005)
Watch It Now! Dead Meat is a short film which shows the reality of health care under Canada's socialized medical system: Canadians wait ... and wait. And sometimes - they die while waiting for free government health care. Filmmakers Stuart Browning and Blaine Greenberg are currently in production on a feature-length film exploring health care in the U.S. and Canada slated for release in late 2006. As an interim offering, they have produced this short which will premier at the Liberty Film Festival in West Hollywood, CA on Oct 21, 2005.

[Nostromo]

On second thought, I wonder if they're trying to be right-wing Michael Moores or something... They borrow a lot from Moore's bag of tricks.

For a while, I thought it was a joke. I mean, why the huge hello kitty doll behind the girl? The Sikh doesn't really look like a Sikh, he looks like a white dude with a turban and a beard.

I didn't even watch the health care movie. I read the description and I

[notyoueither]

Did the incidents covered happen?

[notyoueither]

I was struck by the bit at the end where the conservatives are using the language of the left in the '60s about the power of the establishment.

Hehe.

[OzzyKP]

Oh, I've actually seen that, its good.

Just about the ideological bent that universities have and how they are many cases of bias against conservatives. It also involves FIRE, a good group imho. I highly recommend this video.

[Nostromo]

Did the incidents covered happen?

That's what I'd like to find out

[CrONoS]

@OzzyKP
At my school I used to hate the leftist hippie, but now I find pretty cool to have hippie in our school. They have a coffeeshop in the political department and they sell coffee for 50cents. What a deal?!!

But whatever that's not the point:
In reaction of the hippie, we have some rightwing student trying to balance the power. It's cool, but many of them are some egocentrics individuality... without any sense of social awareness.

And if the rightwing movement become more powerfull in the next month. I'll be a self declared leftist( )... or anything but not a rightwingers.
The problem is the Hippies who want to show us how to think and how to act. And the rightwingers are just some egocentrics indivuals without any sense of higher social awareness...

[CrONoS]

@nostromo:

Yep it's true. The video feel like a joke...

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by nostromo

That's what I'd like to find out

A quick google or two shows some results that talk about the incidents, but not a lot of them.

[Agathon]

Is that guy on crack?

"Universities never used to have a political bias."

So what if other students rip down posters. How is this the university's fault? A philosophy student at my old school had his own anti-abortion organization. He used to complain that people would tear down his posters, but he wasn't so whacked out as to blame this on the university.

These whackjobs are just sore because most people at college don't want to put up with their crap.

And this whole indoctrination thing is bull****. I'd love it if it was possible for professors to make their students believe things. I'd start by making them believe the course materials in my Presocratic Philosophy course. It would be awesome if I had the power to get them to remember everything in the book and everything I said. It would make my job as an educator so much easier.

Most students tend not to be swayed by the politics of their teachers, and resent being hectored about it. That's why I never bother trying to get students to agree with me.

On the other hand, when I taught Rousseau a couple of years back, most of the students ended up agreeing with the communist implications of his thought. I thought it was funny as they didn't know about my own views, so I was jokingly accusing them of being "a bunch of commies" in lecture, and their response was "so what?"

And I had my best evaluation ever that year. One student wrote: "Congratulations! You did what I thought was impossible. I am now an agnostic and I no longer believe in the value of democracy."

I didn't do anything. I just got him to read various books and make up his own mind.

[Az]

I'd love it if it was possible for professors to make their students believe things.

[binTravkin]

And this whole indoctrination thing is bull****. I'd love it if it was possible for professors to make their students believe things. I'd start by making them believe the course materials in my Presocratic Philosophy course. It would be awesome if I had the power to get them to remember everything in the book and everything I said. It would make my job as an educator so much easier.

Maybe you need some staging at the proffessionals in your country?
Im sure you can get an opportunity if you express enough PCness..