hunting accidents happen all the time. Just because he's the VP shouldn't change that. And I would bet if one of his buds shot him by accident, there wouldn't be charges. Unless there was really gross negligence, and that's hard to prove after everyone sobers up.
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The larger issue is the whole reputation of this particular administration is that of secrecy. This is and should have been a marked instance where Cheney shows himself a man of personal responsibility rather than hoping the issue would get buried in some small local press article.
I gots no sympathy for him on that.
damn xposted - with Lord Avalon who seems to be in agreement on this being a defining moment on Cheney's character."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
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Lord Avalon, accountability is always something that other people need to do and not this administration.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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Originally posted by Lord Avalon
"Mr. Cheney has not publicly commented on the incident."
BTW: I was just thinkin'...if the guy dies as a result of the shooting, that's manslaughter, y'know negligent homicide.
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Originally posted by Zkribbler
BTW: I was just thinkin'...if the guy dies as a result of the shooting, that's manslaughter, y'know negligent homicide.
Particularly when I hear talk of alcohol being involved. If I kill someone DUI in the US I'd bet I would be held accountable..."I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
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According to today's newspapers, the blame of the shooting is being placed (by the White House) upon the victim.
What a cheap move by the White House. Anybody who grew up in a hunting state know that the fault always lie in the shooter.
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This minor story is just going to further show how ugly this administration is.
I doubt any legal actions will be taken against Cheney even if the guy dies. "The Vice President is crucial to the war effort. Charging him with a crime, no matter how minor, will only undercut our military efforts and give the terrorists exactly what they want."“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
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Anybody who grew up in a hunter state knows you are supposed to announce when you are leaving the group....which the white house says he didn't do. Now whether that is true is another issue."Yay Apoc!!!!!!!" - bipolarbear
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Originally posted by rah
hunting accidents happen all the time. Just because he's the VP shouldn't change that. And I would bet if one of his buds shot him by accident, there wouldn't be charges. Unless there was really gross negligence, and that's hard to prove after everyone sobers up.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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Originally posted by Barinthus
According to today's newspapers, the blame of the shooting is being placed (by the White House) upon the victim.
What a cheap move by the White House. Anybody who grew up in a hunting state know that the fault always lie in the shooter.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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Originally posted by Wezil
I too feel there is some sort of criminal negligence but the consensus of US posters seems to be no....
Particularly when I hear talk of alcohol being involved. If I kill someone DUI in the US I'd bet I would be held accountable...Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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Originally posted by Apocalypse
Anybody who grew up in a hunter state knows you are supposed to announce when you are leaving the group....which the white house says he didn't do. Now whether that is true is another issue.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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This guy isn't going to die, and it's a little disturbing to hear some people in the media and elsewhere hint at wanting that in order to see Cheney charged.
That said, Cheney is an unbelievable *****, and this story is shaping up as a perfect microcosm of the whole administration. Incompetence, blaming the victim, botched cover-up, refusal to admit fault... and to think, we have three more years of these *******s. The Democrats have only themselves to blame."My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
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