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  • IRONY OF IRONIES: 'museum of tolerance' on Muslim graves...

    Is there no limits to the callous depravity that elements in Israel will go to deliberately provoke the Muslim world!!?

    Israel plans to build 'museum of tolerance' on Muslim graves

    By Donald Macintyre in Jerusalem
    Published: 09 February 2006

    Skeletons are being removed from the site of an ancient Muslim cemetery in Jerusalem to make way for a $150m (£86m) "museum of tolerance" being built for the Los Angeles-based Simon Wiesenthal Centre.

    Palestinians have launched a legal battle to stop the work at what was the city's main Muslim cemetery. The work is to prepare for the construction of a museum which seeks the promotion of "unity and respect among Jews and between people of all faiths".

    Israeli archaeologists and developers have continued excavating the remains of people buried at the site - which was a cemetery for at least 1,000 years - despite a temporary ban on work granted by the Islamic Court, a division of Israel's justice system. Police have been taking legal advice on whether the order is legally binding. The Israeli High Court is to hear a separate case brought by the Al Aqsa Association of the Islamic Movement in Israel next week.

    The project, which a spokesman said had been conceived in partnership with the Jerusalem municipality and the Israeli government, was launched at a ceremony in 2004 by a cast of dignitaries ranging from Ehud Olmert, who is currently the acting Prime Minister, to the governor of California, Arnold Schwarzenegger.

    The Israeli branch of the Simon Wiesenthal Centre declined to comment yesterday and has had no role in the project.

    Durragham Saif, the lawyer who brought the Islamic Court petition on behalf of three Palestinian families, Al Dijani, Nusseibeh and Bader Elzain, all of whom have members buried at the cemetery, said: "It's unbelievable, it's immoral. You cannot build a museum of tolerance on the graves of other people. Imagine this kind of thing in the [United] States or England. And this is the Middle East where events are sensitive. If this goes ahead in this way it is going to cause the opposite thing to tolerance."

    Mr Saif said he had written to the Israeli State Attorney, Menachem Mazuz, seeking police enforcement of the original order. He said on a visit to the site he had entered three out of five tents where excavations were being carried out. "I was shocked to see open graves and tens of whole skeletons there," he said.

    Ikrema Sabri, the Mufti of Jerusalem, demanded a halt to the excavations and said the Muslim religious authorities had not been consulted on the dig. Saying that the cemetery was in use for 15 centuries and that friends of the Prophet Mohamed were buried there, the Mufti declared: "There should be a complete cessation of work on the cemetery because it is sacred for Muslims."

    Under Israel's "absentee property" law the cemetery was taken over by the Custodian of Absentee Property after the 1948 war. Mr Saif said the Custodian had no right to sell the cemetery to the Jerusalem municipality in 1992. While parties to the work are resting part of their case on what they say was an 1894 ruling by the then Sharia court that the sanctity of a cemetery could be lifted, Mr Sabri said that ruling meant that only a Muslim could make such a decision.

    Osnat Goaz, a spokeswoman for the Israel Antiquities Authority, which is carrying out the excavations, said it was common in Jerusalem to build on cemeteries. Adding that in such cases the bones were reburied, she said: "Israel is more crowded with ancient artefacts than any other country in the world. If we didn't build on former cemeteries, we would never build."
    Independent

    Un****ingbelievable...

    Sometimes you wonder why it seems the Muslim world hates Israel, the US and the West so much and then you realise **** like this happens to them on a daily basis...

    It will be interesting to see just how the apologists on this forum can defend the theft and disinterment of graves on a sacred site for a structure that has the staggering hypocrisy to claim to be a "museum of tolerance", seeking "the promotion of 'unity and respect among Jews and between people of all faiths'", as they surely will...
    Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

  • #2
    so terrorists will use this as yet another excuse to blow innocent people up....



    AND YOU ARE ATTACKING ISRAEL, THE US, and "THE WEST"?






    please mobius, go find a bus


    and step in front of it
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • #3
      as for the story

      I think a "museum of tolerance" sounds stupid

      and I think people complaining about "tens" of graves being disturbed from a thousand year old gravesite is stupid

      the article doesn't even mention how many graves are in there total...

      or who is supposedly buried there...

      "friends of mohammed"

      OH NOES WE BETTER NOT DRAW ANY CARTOONS OF THEM





      whiners


      nuke the mideast
      To us, it is the BEAST.

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      • #4
        A museum of tolerance on muslim graves?!!! What's that, like putting a satanic temple in the Vatican?
        “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Sava
          so terrorists will use this as yet another excuse to blow innocent people up....
          Terrorists blow people up regardless of **** like this, so you're just speaking out of your ass-umptions...

          AND YOU ARE ATTACKING ISRAEL, THE US, and "THE WEST"?


          Actually, "elements in Israel" is what I wrote, so I'm not even attacking ALL of Israel. Man you are stupid, aren't you - that's right, you're the one who thought the Bears had a decent defence...

          please mobius, go find a bus


          and step in front of it


          Only after I've dug up your long dead relatives and built a 'Museum of Tolerance' on their former graves - maybe I'll put the urinals on their plot?

          What? I'm only being as respectful as the Simon Wiesenthal dudes...
          Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by MOBIUS


            Actually, "elements in Israel" is what I wrote, so I'm not even attacking ALL of Israel.
            oh please...

            don't be coy mobius

            it's obvious from your posts that you hate israel, america, and "the west" just as much as the terrorists do... (and this coming from the biggest bush hater in america )

            you can hide behind that bull****... "elements in israel"... but it's obvious what your true feelings are...

            Only after I've dug up your long dead relatives and built a 'Museum of Tolerance' on their former graves - maybe I'll put the urinals on their plot?
            well, if you can find people from 1,000 years ago that I'm related to, be my guest

            1. I never knew those people... I don't care

            2. they are dead... it won't bother them...

            3. urinals we people that are alive need to pee

            4. I happen to think all people should be cremated... I don't believe that people have a right to be buried in the ground (unless your family is willing to pay for the land), taking up space, or that just because you were buried somewhere for 1,000 years you are any more special than anyone else. **** those people and **** anyone who thinks that they are important... the only reason I would object to building the museum thingy is because maybe there would be some sort of archeological significance to the site itself. But there's not mention of that in the article. So I don't think that is the case.

            In the history of the world, something like 200 billion people have ever lived. And we are sitting here actually talking about a gravesite for less than what, 20 people? And not one of these people is actually of any historical significance? OH WAIT, THEY MIGHT BE SOME OF MOHAMMED'S PEEPS

            To us, it is the BEAST.

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            • #7
              @sava
              If people care about it? These two people(jews and muslim) gives respect to their ancestors.
              The lack of tradition of americans(and some europeans) is not something we must be proud of. It even indicate a lack in our culture.

              Some Asian familly can retrace a temple who was build by their familly, some century ago.
              bleh

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              • #8
                Originally posted by cronos_qc

                The lack of tradition of americans(and some europeans) is not something we must be proud of.
                Yes it is.

                Most traditions are stupid.

                Slavery, believing in God, not working on Sundays because it would make God angry (we should not work on weekends for other reasons), women being the property of men, worshipping fire, human sacrifice, not eating certain kinds of animals because "God" says so... this is all tradition... at one time or another... some of it still is...

                I mean, there are just tons of traditions that are stupid. And most of them are rooted in religion. We only respect them because we don't want to offend people. But they are stupid.

                I'm an American, but my family is not really "American"... one side has been here for a long time, but the other side of my family is Serbian and has TONS of tradition. Dear God... enough ****ing tradition to kill a horse. And most of it is stupid.

                Look at our daily lives. How much of what we do is rooted in tradition. Our calender... our holidays... even as our society becomes more secular and commercialized, we still go about doing things just as they have been done. And IMO, just doing things for the sake of tradition is stupid. We should seek to imrove ourselves, PROGRESS, EVOLVE, not be stuck in a rut.

                tradition
                To us, it is the BEAST.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sava
                  please mobius, go find a bus
                  and step in front of it
                  Sava... I don't care if he is trolling... that is over the line.

                  You will stop this kind of crap, or you will get restricted.
                  Keep on Civin'
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                  • #10
                    despite a temporary ban on work granted by the Islamic Court, a division of Israel's justice system.
                    Do any Muslim states have a Jewish Court?
                    meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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                    • #11
                      (after reading OP article)


                      That is despicable -- and I usually sympathize with Israel over Palestinians so no, I'm not saying this because I have any uber-protest against Israel in other aspects.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by mrmitchell

                        Do any Muslim states have a Jewish Court?
                        religious courts
                        "post reported"Winston, on the barricades for freedom of speech
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                        • #13
                          It's a head scratcher, but...

                          While parties to the work are resting part of their case on what they say was an 1894 ruling by the then Sharia court that the sanctity of a cemetery could be lifted, Mr Sabri said that ruling meant that only a Muslim could make such a decision.

                          Osnat Goaz, a spokeswoman for the Israel Antiquities Authority, which is carrying out the excavations, said it was common in Jerusalem to build on cemeteries. Adding that in such cases the bones were reburied, she said: "Israel is more crowded with ancient artefacts than any other country in the world. If we didn't build on former cemeteries, we would never build."


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                          • #14
                            Screw building a "museum of tolerance"; embrace the Japanese way and build a love hotel on that graveyard...
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                            ASHER FOR CEO!!
                            GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sava
                              oh please...

                              don't be coy mobius

                              it's obvious from your posts that you hate israel, america, and "the west" just as much as the terrorists do... (and this coming from the biggest bush hater in america )
                              lol so big he broke his chair LOL
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