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    Danish cartoonists fear for their lives
    From Anthony Browne in Brussels

    TWELVE Danish cartoonists whose pictures sparked such outcry have gone into hiding under round-the-clock protection, fearing for their lives.

    The cartoonists, many of whom had reservations about the pictures, have been shocked by how the affair has escalated into a global “clash of civilisations”. They have since tried, unsuccessfully, to stop them being reprinted.

    A spokesman for the cartoonists said: “They are in hiding around Denmark. Some of them are really, really scared. They don’t want to see the pictures reprinted all over the world. We couldn’t stop it. We tried, but we couldn’t.”

    Mogens Blicher Bjerregaard, president of the Danish Union of Journalists, told The Times: “They are keeping a very low profile. They are very concerned about their safety. They feel a big responsibility on their shoulders. It’s blown up so big. It is tough for them.”

    The cartoonists’ names were originally printed in the Danish paper Jyllands-Posten. Flemming Rose, the paper’s cultural editor, invited 25 newspaper cartoonists to draw a picture of Muhammad “how they saw him”, after a children’s author complained that cartoonists would only dare illustrate a book he was writing on the life of Muhammad if they could be anonymous. Twelve cartoonists responded, had their pictures printed in September, and were paid 800 Danish krone (£73) each.

    In an interview with a Swedish newspaper this week, some of the cartoonists expressed their doubts about the entire episode. “It felt a little like a lose-lose situation. If I said no, I was a coward who contributes to self-censorship. If I said yes, I became an irresponsible hate monger against Islam,” one of the cartoonists said.

    Another said: “I was actually angry when I first received the letter [from Jyllands-Posten]. I thought it was a really bad idea. At first I didn’t want to participate, but then I talked it over with some friends from the Middle East, and they thought I should do it.”

    The cartoonists come from a variety of different political backgrounds, which is reflected in their work. While some of the pictures satirise Muhammad, others attack populist right-wing politicians and even Jyllands-Posten itself, which is rightwing.

    Having failed to stop the cartoons being reprinted across Europe, the cartoonists have now decided to use all the money raised from the sales of the pictures to set up a foundation which will award an annual international prize for press freedom.
    My question: Which is stupider?

    Creating a cartoon that makes Muslims feel offended.

    OR

    Certain Muslims wanting to KILL people from countries that published said cartoon.

    There is no banana. There IS something ****ed up here. I know, this is nothing new...but hey, since its such a big deal and all.
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    Creating a cartoon that offends Muslims.
    9.26%
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    Certain Muslims threatening to KILL over cartoon.
    90.74%
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    Last edited by The Emperor Fabulous; February 4, 2006, 22:07.
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  • #2
    Which is worse: your not commenting on a major issue for several days, or failing to notice that there are already two threads on the subject on the first page?

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    • #3
      They are welcome to come here in the South USA, we've got guns to stop them muslims from hurt'n people, we don't like their kind around here......
      "Our words are backed with NUCLEAR WEAPONS!"​​

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      • #4
        All I know is that, in my years in journalism, I've seen some pretty bad stuff about Jewish people and the West in general (with emphasis on the U.S.) appear in Middle Eastern publications — state-sponsored and not — and never saw the reaction appear among Jews and the West that I'm now seeing in the Middle East and elsewhere.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Elok
          Which is worse: your not commenting on a major issue for several days, or failing to notice that there are already two threads on the subject on the first page?

          1.) I was really, really hoping it would go away. But when you've got few jobs, oppression, and very little that resembles the fast-pace of American society, I guess there's nothing left for them to do but dance...er, protest.

          2.) Don't you liken it to kids on a school yard? One says the other is a poopy-pants, the other then beats him with a stick.
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          • #6
            The Danish thread is getting a wee bit too long, Elok. Too much crap to slog through, if you get my drift. A fresh start never hurt, hmm?
            "I may not agree with what you have to say, but I'll die defending your right to say it." — Voltaire

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            • #7
              100 people were killed a few years ago because Muslims were offended that the Miss World pagent was held in a Moslem country. Fundies of all faiths are morons.

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              • #8
                The previous two wound up in the exact same place, I don't see why this one won't. But whatever.

                WRT the Jews never reacting this way: to be fair, the Jews haven't been as powerless as the Muslims are to fight back for the past fifty-odd years. They know America's got their back if the Arabs try any serious offensives, assuming they couldn't beat them back by themselves like they've been doing on and off for decades.

                Whereas the Muslim world has been getting invaded a lot in recent years. We have neither a reason to vent our spleen on really nasty cartoons, nor a reason to fear all-out invasion. They do, or at least think they do.
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                • #9
                  Sic semper trolls
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                  • #10
                    I voted #1 because I hate America.
                    Only feebs vote.

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                    • #11
                      What does it have to do with America?
                      "You are one of the cheerleaders for this wasting of time and the wasting of lives. Do you feel any remorse for having contributed to this "culture of death?" Of course not. Hey, let's all play MORE games, and ignore all the really productive things to do with our lives.
                      Let's pretend to be shocked that a gamer might descend into deeper depression, as his gamer "buds," knowing he was killing himself, couldn't figure out how to call 911 themselves for him. That would have involved leaving their computers I guess."


                      - Jack Thompson

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Elok
                        The previous two wound up in the exact same place, I don't see why this one won't. But whatever.

                        WRT the Jews never reacting this way: to be fair, the Jews haven't been as powerless as the Muslims are to fight back for the past fifty-odd years. They know America's got their back if the Arabs try any serious offensives, assuming they couldn't beat them back by themselves like they've been doing on and off for decades.

                        Whereas the Muslim world has been getting invaded a lot in recent years. We have neither a reason to vent our spleen on really nasty cartoons, nor a reason to fear all-out invasion. They do, or at least think they do.
                        Does your simpering need to surrender know no end?

                        Have you paused to think of what life is like in Europe? You know, the place the controversy started in?

                        I don't recall any Christians blowing up transit services in Cairo lately, do you?

                        I don't recall an American children's book being short of illustrators for fear of violence lately, do you?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Axxaer
                          What does it have to do with America?
                          Since when do we have to have a rational explanation for why we vote?
                          Only feebs vote.

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                          • #14
                            Howard Stern beware!
                            "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
                            "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
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                            2008 Presidential Candidate (for what its worth)

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                            • #15
                              Don't worry, I'm sending this guy in

                              CSPA

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