I apologize to you on behalf of 'Muslims'

[lord of the mark]

"A man who dressed as a suicide bomber"



Lucky for him he wasnt shot.

[C0ckney]

good on him

[Sandman]

For great justice.

[Spiffor]

[VetLegion]

Originally posted by Sandman
A small row is now brewing in Britain over why these protestors weren't arrested.

What exactly are they trying to achieve? Unbelievable.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Sandman
A small row is now brewing in Britain over why these protestors weren't arrested.

They are advocating violence so they should be arrested and jailed for a very lengthy period of time so that they will be allowed to reflect upon their hatred and intolerance.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by VetLegion
What exactly are they trying to achieve?

A clash of civilizations. For it won't happen in Britain if they don't purposefully provoke as much as they can imagine. IMO.

[Sandman]

The newspapers (left and right) are pretty pissed off, complaining that the police aren't doing their job.

[Whaleboy]

Didn't the police arrest ONE lone guy who shouted back to the demonstrators along the lines of advocating free speech?

I hate to sound like I agree with the BNP, but the muslims in question here really didn't do themselves any favours by attacking the liberal culture that has accepted them.

[OneFootInTheGrave]

heh an interview with a member of Islamic Jihad's "political wing" in Croatia... so this is the excerpt

http://www.index.hr/clanak.aspx?id=305223

since it is in Croatian, and if anyone can be bothered he can translate all but in principle a few points.


Basically the title:

If the Danish government don't apologize there will be worse actions than the burning of the embassies.

Na pitanje novinara Z1 zbog čega je nastalo toliko nasilja nakon objave obične karikature u novinama, Ali Abu Sahin je odgovorio: "Prije nego što odgovorim na vaše pitanje, moram objasniti jednu stvar: Mi nismo protiv slobodnog izražavanja, ali u ovom slučaju ne radi se o tome. Objava karikature je direktna uvreda za najveće islamskog sveca, za proroka Muhameda. A uvreda proroka Muhameda znači uvredu cjelokupnog islamskog svijeta. Najveći grijeh kod muslimana je ako na takve uvrede ne reagiramo i zbog toga
nas može kazniti Bog."

On the question: Why such violence because of an ordinary caricature?

Ali Abu Sahin said: "Before I answer your question I have to explain something: We are not against freedom of expression, but in this case, it is another matter. The caricature is a direct insult for biggest Islamic saint, for Prophet Muhamed. An insult to the propehet means the insult to the whole Islamic world. Biggest sin for the muslims is if you don't respond to such insults and because of it God can punish us"

Za Alija Abu Sahina je isprika danske vlade muslimanima, kao i "kažnjavanja odgovornih", jedini način da se obustave nasilni prosvjedi.
"Konkretno, mislim na urednika koji je objavio karikaturu. Taj urednik je Danac i danska vlada će snositi odgovornost za njegovo djelo. Upozoravam, ako se danska vlada ne ispriča, nasilne demonstracije će se nastaviti i vjerujte mi, nitko ne zna na koji će se način to završiti." - zaprijetio je Abu Ali Sahin.
"Mi smo na objavu karikature prvo reagirali slanjem pisama zapadnim veleposlanicima. Nitko nam nije odgovorio pa su počele mirne demonstracije. A kad nitko nije reagirao niti na demonstracije, počelo je paljenje veleposlanstava. Ako se i dalje danska vlada ne ispriča muslimanima, prosvjedi će biti još agresivniji i paljenje zgrada nije najgore što se može dogoditi Dancima." - dodao je član političkog vijeća Islamskog Džihada.

In this part they basically say that the only way that the Danish government will have consequences for all this, as basically the editor is a Dane and if the Danish government doesn't punish him as it can/should, than who knows how will this all finish. (as in the burnings of the embassies is just the beginning)


the second paragrah is: "On the print of the caricature we have first reacted by sending of the letters to western diplomats. Nobody replied so we started with peacefull protests. When nobody replied again we started to burn the embassys. The burning of the embassies is not the worst what can happen to the Danes.

"Mi smo u islamskom Džihadu uvijek gledali različito na europske zemlje i na Sjedinjene američke države. Najavili smo rat SAD-u jer one već davno vode rat protiv muslimana u Afganistanu i Iraku i beskrajno podržavaju naše neprijatelje u izraelskoj državi. Nažalost, bili smo u zabludi kad smo vjerovali da su europske zemlje naši prijatelji i da su pravednije od Amerikanaca. Sad vidimo da su iste kao i Amerika. Nakon Danske, karikature su počele objavljivati i ostale europske zemlje i ako mi ne poduzmemo odlučujuće korake, blaćenje islama bit će svakodnevnica u Europi. A to ne možemo dozvoliti." - zaključio je Ali Abu Sahin.

We in Islamic Jihad alwasy perceived the european countries and the USA differently. We have declared the war to USA since they conduct a war vs Muslims in Afghanistan and Irak for a long time, and they support our enemies in Israel unconditionally. Unfortunately we were wrong when we believed that the European countries are our friends, and that they are more fair than the Americans. Now we see that they are the same as the US. After Denmark the caricatures were printed in other european countries and if we don't undertake decisive steps, insulting of Islam will be a "day to day" activity in Europe. We cannot allow that. - concluded Ali Abu Sahin.



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well basically I'd say that the **** started in Iraq is not going to go away anytime soon it seems, those dudes are looking for excuses to exploit anger accumulated in Muslim countries for decades. Sadly there are many takers

[Az]

I WISH THE WEST WOULD STOP HARASSING AND ATTACKING MUSLIM COUNTRIES. YOU KNOW, LIKE CROATIA.

[germanos]

Originally posted by Spiffor
Submitted without comment.

From the BBC (click the link for pics):

A man who dressed as a suicide bomber during a protest about cartoons satirising the Prophet Muhammad has apologised for his behaviour.

follow up on the story

The guy is a convicted drugs dealer

[our_man]

Have there been any posts from CHB recently on the situation? I always look forward to his informed view.

[Az]

BHoff for Prez

[VetLegion]

Originally posted by Az
I WISH THE WEST WOULD STOP HARASSING AND ATTACKING MUSLIM COUNTRIES. YOU KNOW, LIKE CROATIA.

God knows where did they pull that wacko, the muslims here aren't that fanatical, and there are very few of them.