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So? What justifies banning free speech from government buildings?
We all know the justification of banning screaming "fire" in a crowded theater. So what is the "rationale" behind the government's suppression of dissent in government buildings?A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.
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Originally posted by MrFun
So? What justifies banning free speech from government buildings?
We all know the justification of banning screaming "fire" in a crowded theater. So what is the "rationale" behind the government's suppression of dissent in government buildings?
In a greater sense, she can be seen as threat to the safety of those in the chamber, especially the president. This woman is no simple dissenter or protester, she's more of a stalker with intent to harm.
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Pretty much my view on it; and as I noted, a pro war supporter was also asked to leave.
Not like po Cindy done been picked on.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
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Stalker, maybe. Intent to harm? Where do you get that?
I've so far ignored this woman, and will likely continue to do so... but I don't see how she (or her republican counterpart) were a threat. They may have violated dress code, sure, but don't give me the "she was a safety THREAT" bull****.
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Originally posted by Harry Tuttle
Disturbing the peace. Demonstration without permit. Common sense?
In a greater sense, she can be seen as threat to the safety of those in the chamber, especially the president. This woman is no simple dissenter or protester, she's more of a stalker with intent to harm.
Hey detective -- do you have evidence you can provide to substantiate your claim that she is a stalker with intent to harm?
One other thing -- I'm not sure how wearing a T-shirt with a statement on it endangers other people.A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.
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Yeah, its a time, place, manner restriction. Demostrations in the House gallery could disrupt the legislative proceedings and it appears the Congress has taken a broad view of demonstrations. If she tried to challenge it I don't think she'd get anywhere.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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Originally posted by MrFun
Hey detective -- do you have evidence you can provide to substantiate your claim that she is a stalker with intent to harm?
One other thing -- I'm not sure how wearing a T-shirt with a statement on it endangers other people.
She ain't well.
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Originally posted by Harry Tuttle
Verbal abuse, mental abuse and torment. Cmon, the woman might as well be stalking David Letterman. Have you ever heard her talk? She's nutso. She could rush the podium in some sort of sick fantasy trance and try to attack the president.
She ain't well.
Have you ever heard of a non-controversial protest where there is no tension?
That's the NATURE of dissenting speech and protest. But tension and controversy does not always result in physical violence.
If this is your line of reasoning, then all forms of protest, in all places, need to be banned less such things endanger the public.A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Yeah, its a time, place, manner restriction. Demostrations in the House gallery could disrupt the legislative proceedings and it appears the Congress has taken a broad view of demonstrations. If she tried to challenge it I don't think she'd get anywhere.
You might as well revoke your ACLU membership now.A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.
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Originally posted by MrFun
Have you ever heard of a non-controversial protest where there is no tension?
That's the NATURE of dissenting speech and protest. But tension and controversy does not always result in physical violence.
If this is your line of reasoning, then all forms of protest, in all places, need to be banned less such things endanger the public.
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Originally posted by Harry Tuttle
I'm saying that she should have been thrown out because she's a threat, not because there was some sort of quasi-extistential tension bs going on. Stop painting her actions with a broad brush. She's not a rational person. She doesn't protest to open up dialogue. She protests out of selfishness and the need to feel important.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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Originally posted by Winston
You don't even have to be on the same continent to figure out this bird is off her rocker.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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Which the USA is, regardless of ACS line-of-thought.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
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