Activist Cindy Sheehan Arrested at Capitol

[Ted Striker]

I thought the meeting with Chavez was brilliant.

Anyone who can get you black and white Reactionaries in an uproar is All Class in my book.


10/10 Troll by Mrs. Sheehan, well done

[Odin]

Originally posted by Sikander


She just got back from Venezuela where she appeared with their populist dictator on his daily 3 hour television rant and denounced the U.S. Is there a more perfect woman in the world for you?

Chavez isn't a dictator.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Zkribbler

It'd be interesting to see how the rule she broke (if any) gets around the First Amendement. What compelling governmental interest would be furthered by banning T-Shirts with slogans??

Or are all T-Shirts banned. Or all T-Shirts with writing on them. How 'bout with cartoon characters? Or cartoons of George Bush standing on mountains of dead babies?? Rules banning speech are tough.

Imran, are you still awake? What do you think of this?

Her 1st amendment rights are weak in comparison with the myriad conflicting rights and obligations of the president giving the state of the union address to congress. She violated the dress code and was attempting to demonstrate on the floor of the congress during the speech. If that's legal we'll never see congress pass another bill again in our lifetimes.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Odin


Chavez isn't a dictator.

Oh that's right, his military coup failed. And his armed party isn't a threat to democracy or free and fair elections, I mean the Nazis were armed and they respected the rights of others to participate in the system. But seriously, do you really think the citizens of a real democracy would want their president to use his bully pulpit to harangue the country for hours every day? Democracy is more than an election.

[Ted Striker]

Sikander disqualified in Round 2 for invoking Nazi references

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
I thought the meeting with Chavez was brilliant.

Anyone who can get you black and white Reactionaries in an uproar is All Class in my book.


10/10 Troll by Mrs. Sheehan, well done

Since when am I a mulatto or a reactionary?

[Odin]

Originally posted by Sikander


Oh that's right, his military coup failed. And his armed party isn't a threat to democracy or free and fair elections, I mean the Nazis were armed and they respected the rights of others to participate in the system. But seriously, do you really think the citizens of a real democracy would want their president to use his bully pulpit to harangue the country for hours every day? Democracy is more than an election.

Jimmy Carter said the election were free an fair, are you calling him a liar? The only people in Venezuela whining about Chavez are the rich people. The corporate media is demonizing him because he isn't being a good little b*tch for American businesses.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Odin

If you like Bush's war so much then enlist. You probably think Max Cleland is un-American too.

What the hell does this random rant have to do with the (on topic) post you quoted?

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
Sikander disqualified in Round 2 for invoking Nazi references

Please note that the sentence immediately after the nazi reference begins "But seriously". You've been juked out of your shoes my friend.

[Ted Striker]

Your thinking is black and white

You are also Reactionary

Labels such as "dictator" and "Nazi" references pretty much sum it up

I am labeling also but the difference is I'm right and you are wrong.

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by Sikander


Please note that the sentence immediately after the nazi reference begins "But seriously". You've been juked out of your shoes my friend.

There's no instant replay on this man the play stands

[Ramo]

Oh that's right, his military coup failed. And his armed party isn't a threat to democracy or free and fair elections, I mean the Nazis were armed and they respected the rights of others to participate in the system. But seriously, do you really think the citizens of a real democracy would want their president to use his bully pulpit to harangue the country for hours every day? Democracy is more than an election.

A dictatorship isn't the same thing as a problematic democratic process. And while Chavez is free to pretty much free to implement his (generally ****ty) policies, that's the result of what have been generally recognized as free elections. Not unlike Dear Leader's ability to implement his own idiotic agenda immediately after 9/11. A dictator is more than just some leader that you don't like.

[Odin]

Originally posted by Sikander


What the hell does this random rant have to do with the (on topic) post you quoted?

Hey, I'm trying to troll SLD, don't ruin it.

[Agathon]

Have you been indulging in some of Sava's "tobacco"?

Originally posted by Sikander

Oh that's right, his military coup failed.

Which one? The 1992 coup attempt? Yes it failed and he got sent to prison for it. Then he was given a pardon and decided that winning elections was the only way he could ever effect change.

from Wikipedia:

He won the Carter Center-endorsed 1998 presidential election on December 6, 1998 with 56.2% of the vote.

Chávez's widespread popularity allowed his mid 1999 constitutional referendum to pass with a 71.78% "yes" vote.

In the second election, members of Chávez's MVR and select allied parties formed the Polo Patriotico ("Patriotic Pole"). Chávez's Polo Patriotico went on to win 95% (120 out of the total 131) of the seats in the voter-approved Venezuelan Constitutional Assembly.

The new constitution was presented to the national electorate in December 1999 and approved with a CNE-audited 71.78% "yes" vote.

2000 election. Chávez's coalition garnered a commanding two-thirds majority of seats in the National Assembly while Chávez was reelected with 59.76% of the votes.

Then there was a coup.... against Chavez... but it failed.

Then the 2004 recall referendum. Recall Hugo Chavez? 59.10% of voters said "No".

Some ****ing dictator eh?

And his armed party isn't a threat to democracy or free and fair elections, I mean the Nazis were armed and they respected the rights of others to participate in the system.

Apparently not. He's been voted in several times now. Only the loony right have laid charges that the elections were fixed.

But seriously, do you really think the citizens of a real democracy would want their president to use his bully pulpit to harangue the country for hours every day? Democracy is more than an election.

Chavez has a Sunday morning talk show. He takes questions from the audience and from phone calls. Ever see Shrub do that?

As opposed to his opposition who use their TV stations all the time to harangue the country to get rid of him, and call him names like "the ******" on air.

Call Chavez what you like, but the caricature of him in the dumb American media is far from the truth.

[Agathon]

It's easy to understand Chavez. He's an unsophisticated man, slightly buffoonish (and he knows it and is prepared to poke fun at himself), with a deep sense of conscience.

Poverty in Venezuela was simply appalling before he took office (and it still ain't too hot). People had no medical care and no education and illiteracy was rampant.

Some people might look at this and say "How terrible". Some others might say: "I wish someone would do something". Chavez is the sort of guy who says: 'This will not stand, I am going to do something about it come hell or high water", and then actually gets off his ass and does something.

And he's trying as hard as he can. Perhaps he will fail, but at least he is trying to do something about it, which is more than can be said for his predecessors.