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  • #91
    Just picked this up yesterday at Microcenter

    Presario Media Center SR1750NX; AMD® Athlon 64 Processor 3500+ with Enhanced Virus Protection; 1GB Dual Channel DDR-400 RAM; 200GB 7,200RPM SATA Hard Drive; LightScribe Double Layer 16x DVD±RW Drive; ATI RADEON XPRESS 200 Video Chipset; 10/100 Network Adapter; Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005; Monitor Not Included

    Lists at $599

    less $100 in rebates

    Less $100 in first time buy using Microcenter visa

    Total after rebates $399

    Add monitor and go. Think I'll likely upgrade the video card.
    "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

    “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Urban Ranger
      This is funny on so many levels, coming from somebody who claims COCOMO I/II has any relevant bearing on critical software.
      Strawman, one that I've already corrected you on. I said it's one of the fundamentals of Software Engineering, something that is taught in the introductory course.
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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      • #93
        True . But the 6800 is twice the price of the 6600 , at least in India
        Really? A 6800GS will cost perhaps £120, though add more for the XFX model which looks awesome. A 6600GT on which you could hope to play F.E.A.R will set you back around £100 to £110.

        You could pick up a nice 7800GT for just under £200 too . Scan.co.uk has a pretty good selection .
        "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
        "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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        • #94
          As someone stuck with an AGP board (Athlon 64 3200+), I'm pleased to see the 7800GS come out as an AGP board.

          Will be upgrading shortly from my Radeon 9800 Pro.
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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          • #95
            I'd have expected you to be running pci-x, any reason?
            "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
            "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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            • #96
              Built my computer in August 2003. Had top of the line stuff at the time, PCI Express didn't exist yet.
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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              • #97
                Fair play. PCI-E isn't really a necessity at the moment, though that'll probably change in the next few months, but then, from your point of view, I'd imagine a completely new system with Socket 940 M2 would be on the cards?

                For me, if I don't buy a Mac, it'd be a Core Duo based system regardless, will likely buy when the 64 bit versions come out just before Vista.
                "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
                "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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                • #98
                  I'm waiting for something similar -- definitely after Vista comes out, maybe a quad core Athlon 64.

                  In September I'm going to be moving, buying a condo, furnishing said condo, etc. so it may have to wait til 2007.
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                  Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                  • #99
                    That must be a real ***** to code for

                    Personally I think this will be the year that Intel pwns AMD. As far as I'm aware, AMD are just riding off the back of their excellent Athlon 64 design. Things will get interesting when Intels new chips start to bite.
                    "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
                    "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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                    • #100
                      It depends on the task, some of them are trivial to scale to higher threads (such as encoding). Game developers are starting to get more used to it.

                      They need 6 threads for optimal performance on the Xbox 360, and 9 for optimal performance on the PlayStation 3. On the PC front, they're moving in the same direction...but slower.

                      Intel could very well pwn AMD. It'll be a decision I make at the time. Intel vs AMD, Nvidia vs ATI...I have no loyalties, give me the best product.
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                      • #101
                        Likewise, except for nVidia vs ATI.... ATI's drivers scare me
                        "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
                        "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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                        • #102
                          I've yet to have trouble with either Nvidia or ATI drivers.

                          I went STB ViRGE -> Voodoo2 -> TNT2 Ultra -> GeForce 3 -> Radeon 9800 Pro, and it looks like I'm about to go GeForce 7800GS.

                          I actually prefer ATI's regularly scheduled, monthly driver updates to Nvidia's irregular updates.
                          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                          • #103
                            I bought a Radeon 9550 a while back and I had to remove it, since it made by PC crash all the time. I contacted ATI and tried everything they suggested. The Radeon is in its box as we speak. 200 $ down the toilet. I should probably sell it...
                            Let us be lazy in everything, except in loving and drinking, except in being lazy – Lessing

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                            • #104
                              Why didn't you get it swapped under warranty?

                              When one of my motherboard's capacitor blew and fried my video card and CPU, the video card constantly crashed.

                              ATI sent me a new card no questions asked. It wasn't even their fault.
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                              • #105
                                IRC, you have between 10 to 15 days to return a product at Futureshop. I waited too long before I decided it isn't worth the trouble trying to make it work. After I put it back in its box, I basically forgot about it. Anyway, there's probably nothing wrong with the Radeon itself, it just doesn't like my system, with its integrated graphics.

                                Otoh, maybe there's something wrong with it. AFAIK, its still under warranty, right? Its 3 years, IRC.
                                Last edited by Nostromo; February 6, 2006, 19:02.
                                Let us be lazy in everything, except in loving and drinking, except in being lazy – Lessing

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