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Originally posted by Caligastia
When guns are outlawed only criminals will have guns.
When guns are outlawed only criminals will have guns.
How many of the deaths are from legally-owned guns?
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No, why should they ?
Probably the main part - really, it doesn't matter. The problem is that when you allow guns, then the number of illegal weapons rises equally if not more.With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
scare away the burger with your gun
Sounds like something Michael Moore should be doing....people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - SnottyComment
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Another tricky thing that you miss is that if the burglar doesn't expect you to have a gun, then the burglar won't have one either.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
You see, the trick, and this is very tricky, so follow me closely, is to either scare away the burger with your gun or shoot him first.
I imagine that if you were unarmed, you could find a way to defend yourself if an armed burgler shoots you dead, but not many are that enterprising.
The main reason burglars are armed is that they want to protect themself against armed houseowners.With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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Do you think criminals buy guns legally? Don't be silly.Originally posted by BlackCat
No, why should they ?
This all sounds rather speculative to me.Probably the main part - really, it doesn't matter. The problem is that when you allow guns, then the number of illegal weapons rises equally if not more....people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - SnottyComment
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Originally posted by Caligastia
Sounds like something Michael Moore should be doing.
Missed that one.
Only problem left is to protect yourself against the pommes frites and cola
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
Steven WeinbergComment
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Americans turning into homicidal maniacs would be like salmon turning into fish.Originally posted by Caligastia
Doesn't this situation already exist in many U.S. states? If so, have otherwise law-abiding homeowners in those areas suddenly transmogrified into homocidal maniacs?
Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?
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Of course they don't - criminals isn't that stupid (ok, some isOriginally posted by Caligastia
Do you think criminals buy guns legally? Don't be silly.
). The difference is that it's more difficult to buy blackmarket weapons (wich typically is fed by steling legal weapons) and more important, they don't need the weapons.
Maybe, but one thing is for certain, fewer legal weapons reduces accidents and the possibility to use legal weapons illegally.This all sounds rather speculative to me.With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
Steven WeinbergComment
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i agree with blackcat...
i knew i could do it!"Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."Comment
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What was the law before; that you can't defend yourself with legally owned firearms and knives?
Sounds like a phoney law.Comment
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Just a tip to all you Italians who might be new at this…
If the burglar tries to leave be sure to drag his body back into your house or place of business after you shoot him. Makes the paperwork easier for the cops. 
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Originally posted by BlackCat
Another tricky thing that you miss is that if the burglar doesn't expect you to have a gun, then the burglar won't have one either.
The main reason burglars are armed is that they want to protect themself against armed houseowners.
You don't actually believe this, do you?
Burgler's carry guns to make their threat more real. If they came on you with fists, you could just run away unless they grabbed you in a headlock or something.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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Yeah, I know that this must be shocking news to you that are accustomed to another environment. Burglars that isn't armed - how shockingOriginally posted by Imran Siddiqui
You don't actually believe this, do you?
Burgler's carry guns to make their threat more real. If they came on you with fists, you could just run away unless they grabbed you in a headlock or something.
Though, it's a fact. Execpt for some really rare cases, the only criminals here that use weapons are bank robbers and drug related persons, and the latter are typically using their weapons against competitors.With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
Steven WeinbergComment
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Burglars here very seldom carry guns.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
You don't actually believe this, do you?
Burgler's carry guns to make their threat more real. If they came on you with fists, you could just run away unless they grabbed you in a headlock or something.In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.Comment
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very few robberies are "home invasions" in the US. Criminals would rather steal valuables then trade shots with people in their homes.Originally posted by BlackCat
Another tricky thing that you miss is that if the burglar doesn't expect you to have a gun, then the burglar won't have one either.
The main reason burglars are armed is that they want to protect themself against armed houseowners.Comment
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In fact, the smart won't load the gun. Since that will show in court how has no intent to kill, and lighter sentence.Originally posted by Whoha
very few robberies are "home invasions" in the US. Criminals would rather steal valuables then trade shots with people in their homes.
Besides, robbers always pass up the money and jewerlies and steal all the remote controls.I drink to one other, and may that other be he, to drink to another, and may that other be me!Comment
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