Are you ready for some FOOTBALL! - Hot Stove Edition

[-Jrabbit]

Martz will also act as QB coach. The Lions just became a lot more dangerous.

[Guynemer]

Oh, poor naive -Jrabbit.

[Ming]

Originally posted by Guynemer


Oh, poor naive -Jrabbit.

Since Detroit sucks, Martz can only help, because they really can't get much worse

[Wycoff]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
You are being far too optimistic. Like SuperBowl V is remembered for being the sloppiest SB in history, SB XL will be remembered for being the worst officiated. You think that is going to subside and people will remember other parts of the game in football history... you'll be in for a shock.

I think you're being too pessimistic about it. It's already subsiding, and the controversial calls were mostly correct upon further review; even Chris Collinworth (no love for the Steelers) has said the only wrong call was the low block on Hasselbeck (on Inside the NFL). The instant historians are already losing interest. Give it 10 years.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Wycoff
I think you're being too pessimistic about it. It's already subsiding, and the controversial calls were mostly correct upon further review; even Chris Collinworth has said the only wrong call was the low block on Hasselbeck. The instant historians are already losing interest. Give it 10 years.

And in 10 years, you'll see the lasting legacy being the officiating. There has been enough hubbub, especially right after the game, that football historians will say that was as big as anything else in the aftermath of the game.

And Collinsworth shouldn't be used as backing for any argument.

[MOBIUS]

I liked the game because it had a fairytale ending for Bettis (call me a sentimentalist), and I can say the Bengals lost to the Superbowl champs...

As opposed to the team that lost to the team that lost to the team that won, eh Sava?

[Wycoff]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


And in 10 years, you'll see the lasting legacy being the officiating. There has been enough hubbub, especially right after the game, that football historians will say that was as big as anything else in the aftermath of the game.

And Collinsworth shouldn't be used as backing for any argument.

The entire Inside the NFL crew was in agreement. I singled out Collinsworth because he usually goes against the Steelers. It's pointless to keep arguing back and forth about what happens in 10 years. I think you're wrong about it, as the calls weren't nearly as bad as first thought. You think I'm wrong, as the hype after the game is against me. (However, you also think that the Raiders offense was other than atrocious in Super Bowl 37... 250 total yards and five interceptions... nice.) All I know is that you're the most intractable person with whom I've discussed this. Even the Seahawks fans agree that the "hold" was not a "phantom hold" as was intially asserted after the game. We'll just have to agree to disagree about it... we'll talk about it again in 10 years.

[-Jrabbit]

You guys should cut and paste your posts into Word documents. It will save you both time and trouble.

Because 10 years from now, neither of you will be changing.
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Oh, and a note to Guynemer -- I didn't say the Lions would be BETTER. But Martz will make them more dangerous, because he actually understands how to get production out of the skill positions.

[Wycoff]

Originally posted by -Jrabbit
You guys should cut and paste your posts into Word documents. It will save you both time and trouble.

Because 10 years from now, neither of you will be changing.

You're probably right.

[Ming]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
And in 10 years, you'll see the lasting legacy being the officiating.

Nahhhh... in ten years (probably less) the lasting legacy will be a wonderfully narriated and super slick documentary from NFL Films highlighting the Pitt victory and Bus's last game.

It will include 32 different angles of the "gadget play", many views of Bus running the ball and cheering on the sidelines... And a bunch of shots of Cower as they talk about how he finally got a Super Bowl.

Pretty much what they do for every Super Bowl

[Peter Triggs]

Originally posted by -Jrabbit
the overall officiating sucked, the calls against Seattle generally happened on their biggest plays.

In terms of overall quality, it may have been the worst Super Bowl ever.

I got so annoyed at the officiating that the thought ran through my mind "Is this game fixed?" and I actually switched it off early in the fourth quarter. That's the first time I've ever done that to a SuperBowl.

If there were others like me, the advertisers should be seriously concerned about this.

[Ming]

Originally posted by Peter Triggs
If there were others like me, the advertisers should be seriously concerned about this.

Considering it was one of the highest watched Super Bowls in years, the Advertisers were thrilled

[Imran Siddiqui]

HAW HAW!!

The Raiders RE-HIRE Art Shell! Mostly because no one else wanted the job!

[Lord Avalon]

I hope Shell does well. He was 56-41, a winning coach, but no one hired him again till now because he was black. How many white retread losers have been hired in the 12 yrs that he was out?

[Imran Siddiqui]

I hope Shell does well. He was 56-41, a winning coach, but no one hired him again till now because he was black.

Frankly I think this is a total red herring. How many coach hires have we had in the last 5 years who were black? None of them even seriously considered Shell. Are you telling me Chicago, Cincinnati, Cleveland, etc failed to consider Shell because he was black?! Don't think so.

Probably the main reason is that Shell got a reputation as a coach who was hard to work with and would thrown a GM under the bus. That's the same reason why Ted Nolan hasn't gotten an NHL job since butting heads with the Buffalo Sabers front office (notably John Muckler).