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What a marvelous statement of desperation from Osama. They must really be hurting.
As a side note....reporters just back from Iraq report extremely high US military morale. I wonder if they are seeing better conditions on the ground over there.
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Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
Is GWB going to write this into his State of the Union Address somehow?
There may not be enough room between the repeated references to 9/11 and calling his critics traitors.
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Just curious...Does anyone think that there may be a relation between an AQ call for a truce and the escalating events in Iran? IIRC, there has been some documented contacts between the two and I am curious if there are any indications of significant contact that could be part of an overall strategy.
"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003
According to MEMRI (the Middle East Media Research Institute), Bin Laden did not offer us a truce, but instead said he would abide by one if the U.S. offered a truce to him.
Originally posted by PLATO
Just curious...Does anyone think that there may be a relation between an AQ call for a truce and the escalating events in Iran? IIRC, there has been some documented contacts between the two and I am curious if there are any indications of significant contact that could be part of an overall strategy.
You mean that Iran's president has volunteerd to take the heat now so Osama can stay low for a while?
I don't think so.
Apart from that, they are hardly natural allies to begin with.
Originally posted by Kontiki
Odd that if he thinks they're winning so handily, he'd be offering truces.
I do it all the time in Civ. Make truce for a few turns, build up more strength, take another city. Make truce for another few turns, build up more strength, take six cities. Make truce for another few turns, build up more strength, wipe out the last vestiges.
Truces mean nothing but a brief respite to build more weapons, regardless of the side that calls for it.
You mean that Iran's president has volunteerd to take the heat now so Osama can stay low for a while?
I don't think so.
Apart from that, they are hardly natural allies to begin with.
Actually, they are natural allies. Although they have grave differences in philosophy and religion, they have the great common enemy. Much like The USSR and the US were natural allies during WWII.
There have been more than one intelligence report about mid level contacts between AQ and Iran. Iran refuses to turn over any AQ terrorist to any international body or to any other country. Both now have a strong reason to want to see US forces disengage in the region.
With the US gone in Afghanistan then Taliban resurgence could be seen. With the US gone in Iraq, then ****e leaders with Iranian ties could bring that country under Iranian influence. Further, AQ would gain the advantage in Iraq of being able to build there organisation there virtually unimpeded.
Should they get this truce then they would most likely become enemies...but until then, they are most definately natural allies. The question is: Are they actual allies? Which is something entirely different, of course.
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No, they're enemies. Zarqawi is contributing to the insurgency against the Iraqi gov't, dominated by close allies of Iran (particularly, SCIRI). Iran doesn't have anything to gain from collaborating with AQ, just like the previous Iraqi gov't didn't have anything to gain from collaborating with AQ.
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You and I have apparently a diffrent feel with the term 'natural allies'.
In comparison to your anology of the US and USSR:
At the start of WW2 it was clear both were on oposing sides. This can be best illustrated through the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact.
It was not after the Third Reich attacked the USSR that the sides grew closer together, and only after the US was dragged in through Japan´s attack that they became full allies.
And the alliance didn´t last long, no sooner then the war was over their bitter fued re-emerged.
It would seem (from that anology) that the US could do better then creating a situation that these unlikely allies start getting a mutual enemy.
Iran refuses to turn over any AQ terrorist to any international body or to any other country.
That's not true. There was even a situation where they were going to turn over several high ranking AQ suspects if we stopped supporting MEK, a rebel Iranian group that the State Dept. considers to be terrorists. But it was scuttled by the dumbasses in our gov't.
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Originally posted by PLATO
Just curious...Does anyone think that there may be a relation between an AQ call for a truce and the escalating events in Iran? IIRC, there has been some documented contacts between the two and I am curious if there are any indications of significant contact that could be part of an overall strategy.
Al Qaeda has mostly gone after Shi'as in Iraq so the Iranians don't think much of Al Qaeda.
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