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  • #31
    Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
    Take this truce. Its a good idea. I dont see what america has to give up.

    You have to joking -- I don't want my country to negotiate with terrorists. Whenever terrorists profess to neogitate, it's nothing but a ploy.


    And besides, I don't see how Osama can be so arrogant as to declare that he's on the winning side when he's running chicken-**** scared from us as we try to hunt him down.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Whoha
      Nope, they go further back to when the Christians repelled the Muslims from Spain.
      Well splendid.

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      • #33
        And if they want truce, they can retreat from their positions. They can also give up some people.

        If not.. they should not expect to get the 'truce'. No show, no go.
        In da butt.
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        • #34
          1) Show of weakness.

          2) Truce = time for THEM to reorganize, regroup, and hit us again. Yes, right from the Koran.

          3) **** them.

          4) Pretty well-worded, though. It will hit a certain nerve with large numbers of Westerners. Their spin > our spin right now.

          -Arrian
          grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

          The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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          • #35
            yes, it'll cause argument in here, people will get into heated debates for nothing.
            In da butt.
            "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
            THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
            "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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            • #36
              IT's all for show. He can pretend they're strong.

              AND if by some chance, someone is stupid enough to take him up on it, He can declare a major victory at no cost. It's a win win for them, since if no one does take him up on it, he can use it after the next attack saying, I gave them a chance to avoid this but they said no. They got what they deserved. This won't necessarily fly in the West, but in will outside of the West, which from a support side, is all he's concerned with.
              It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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              • #37
                Agree with Arrian.

                OTOH it may mark a marked disagreement in tactics between the likes of AQ/Bin Laden and AQ Iraqi operations/Zarqawi.

                Bin Laden sees long term the establishment of democracy in Iraq has now meant a new phase of the conflict one which will mean the AQ & insurgents are targeting legitamite islamic governments of the Islamic people. Not even cover of corrupted Monarchs not holding to the true faith can justify terrorist actions. This being said the continued death and destruction that continues day to day becomes more of a liability to advance the cause of AQ than as a cause of teh US presence.

                Tanslation now that Iraq appears to be a democratic governement continued actions only paint AQ in a bad light to win hearts and minds on the Arab street and do little if any effect on the US. Case closed AQ already lost in Iraq, now is the time to move the actions elsewhere (look out domestic US).
                "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

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                • #38
                  I say accept the truce!

                  Let's meet in person to sign it.

                  It's okay Mr. bin Laden, you can trust us.
                  To us, it is the BEAST.

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                  • #39
                    How about a hostage swap to guarantee good behavior? We give them Dubya, they give us Osama.

                    -Arrian
                    grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                    The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Sava
                      I say accept the truce!

                      Let's meet in person to sign it.

                      It's okay Mr. bin Laden, you can trust us.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Sava
                        I say accept the truce!

                        Let's meet in person to sign it.

                        It's okay Mr. bin Laden, you can trust us.
                        In fact, I think we should send Jack Bauer as the US representative.
                        'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by MrFun
                          it's nothing but a ploy.
                          Funny...that's the same word Cheney used...

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                          • #43
                            And Cheney is never, ever, under any circumstances... correct about anything?

                            Dick sucks, it's true, but he's right on this one.

                            -Arrian
                            grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                            The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous


                              Funny...that's the same word Cheney used...

                              Cheney and Mr Fun have never been photographed together, right?
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                              • #45
                                If anyone's interested, the Counterterrorism Blog, a group blog, has been breaking down the tape's message, translating it from Arabic and analyzing it. Quite interesting.

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