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  • #61
    360 feedback: "360 feedback is rubbish. Download 720 feedback now you amateurs!"

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Provost Harrison
      Obvious? You just blatantly blamed QA for a development problem
      No, I did not.

      How can you develop software if you can't properly parse English?

      Given what I was told just now about their QA process, I wouldn't be surprised if the difficulty in quitting Paxil was an intentional design factor to keep people buying it, when there are better drugs like Celexa out there.
      I was saying given the lack of professionalism allegedly displayed by their QA department, it's not surprising if there are similarly questionable ethics across the company.
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Asher
        Do you have any idea how much money your company would be sued for if there was a failure in the QA process, and it came out that inexperienced, unqualified people developed the software it used?
        That is why there is validation, silly. What part of the QA process are you not quite grasping?
        Speaking of Erith:

        "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Provost Harrison
          That is why there is validation, silly. What part of the QA process are you not quite grasping?
          I thought you were using the software to do parts of the QA process? Which means if the software fails, parts of the QA process would be f*cked?
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Asher
            No, I did not.

            How can you develop software if you can't properly parse English?
            The English in that sentence was fine. It's your reading which I have doubts over.

            I was saying given the lack of professionalism allegedly displayed by their QA department, it's not surprising if there are similarly questionable ethics across the company.
            What lack of professionalism? To train someone up to do a job? Tell me Asher, how did you learn to do your programming? Did you know it when you came out of the womb?
            Speaking of Erith:

            "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Asher

              I thought you were using the software to do parts of the QA process? Which means if the software fails, parts of the QA process would be f*cked?


              Do you actually listen? The software is there to collect data and calculate results involves with analysis. The system will be validated to ensure it can do this.
              Speaking of Erith:

              "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Provost Harrison
                What lack of professionalism? To train someone up to do a job? Tell me Asher, how did you learn to do your programming? Did you know it when you came out of the womb?
                See, this is precisely why it doesn't make sense to hire you.

                Programming is not hard. Anyone can do it. They stopped "teaching" programming after 1 class in university.

                You don't understand the fundamentals of software engineering, which is something that is vital in the development of critical software, such as used in QA processes for pharmaceutical companies. A bug here can be catastrophic, can it not?

                That's the lack of professionalism -- hiring people who don't understand there's a difference betweeen computer programming and software engineering for critical systems.
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Provost Harrison
                  :banghead:

                  Do you actually listen? The software is there to collect data and calculate results involves with analysis. The system will be validated to do this.
                  The system will be validated?

                  You mean, you will put the system through bug testing to ensure it is correct? Such as doing it by hand to compare it to the computerised results?
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                  Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                  • #69


                    No, evidently, you don't...
                    Speaking of Erith:

                    "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                    • #70
                      I have no time to try and explain the intricacies of QA to you Asher...this is just going round in circles and you have proven, decisively, your utter dopiness.
                      Speaking of Erith:

                      "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                      • #71
                        "The system will be validated" -- I'm assuming this meant the software you mentioned in the previous sentence.

                        Excuse me if you cannot write proper English sentences, let alone critical software.

                        You're spouting BS.
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • #72
                          our validation uses 21 CFR part 11 for general validation guidelines for electronic records and signatures

                          quality systems are also regulated according FDA concept papers written in conjunction with IEEE standards, CDRH, and CBER

                          Validations require proof of successful operation of the system in conjunction with these and possibly other industry standards and regualtions.

                          My coworker generally handles computer and software validations. One program has about 4 6-inch 3 ring binders full of documents that require signatures of approval from VPs of departments ranging from QA through IT. These documents justify the program.

                          You mean, you will put the system through bug testing to ensure it is correct? Such as doing it by hand to compare it to the computerised results?
                          Generally three runs are performed, or until enough data is generated to prove statistical importance.
                          Monkey!!!

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Japher
                            Generally three runs are performed, or until enough data is generated to prove statistical importance.
                            Are all three runs done by software?
                            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                            • #74
                              Are all three runs done by software?
                              Yes.
                              Monkey!!!

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                              • #75


                                Take it to the bridge gentlemen.

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