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  • #16
    I think the Europeans (Brits and French) and the actions taken between 1918 and 1923 are certainly the most at fault for the current problems.

    If it were not for them, there would be a different set of problems in the ME for sure, but they would not be the current set.
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    • #17
      all of the above, but to greatly varying degrees.
      "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Spiffor
        Clearly, it's the Rosbifs' fault
        There is, oddly enough, some reasonable justification for this belief ... I'd certainly say the Brits have a decent share of this blame, in not forseeing the problems the Israeli state would create, and not taking adequate steps to prevent them.
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        • #19
          Soviet Union/Cold War should probably be on that list.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Sandman
            I blame Eurasia and Africa.
            Damned pushy landmasses if you ask me!
            He's got the Midas touch.
            But he touched it too much!
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            • #21
              Missing from the list is the Ottoman Empire which provided the raw material for all the sh!tty Arab countries subsquently formed after WW1.
              He's got the Midas touch.
              But he touched it too much!
              Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Winston
                Mainly the Arabs.

                If they'd just leave Israel alone, things would look a lot brighter for everyone.
                If you jumped off a cliff, things would look a lot brighter for everyone.
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                • #23
                  Would you care to actually formulate an objection to my statement?

                  Or is it that we simply can't criticize the Arabs for anything in our precious little PC world?

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                  • #24
                    ME screws up ME.
                    In da butt.
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                    • #25
                      It's the Danes' fault, for their sheer lack of humour AND (in this case) their arrogance.

                      Winston, not every peoples on Earth is as submissive as Danes are when it comes to occupation. And occupation is the best term to describe what the Arabs feel is done to them.

                      Hence, it's everyone's fault. Especially the Danes'.

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                      • #26
                        Yes. It´s stupid.
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                        • #27
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                          • #28
                            I selected 'other'. My reason is that its moslty the UK's fault, which is more specific than the europe/west option. The list of examples are too many
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                            • #29
                              Some points of note

                              Originally posted by Dr Zoidberg
                              "If they'd [Arabs] just leave Israel alone, things would look a lot brighter for everyone."

                              If you jumped off a cliff, things would look a lot brighter for everyone.
                              Yes -- because stopping murder strikes and suicide bombings against innocent civilians is just like jumping off a cliff.

                              Personal attacks
                              Crappy analogues

                              I selected 'other'. My reason is that its moslty the UK's fault, which is more specific than the europe/west option. The list of examples are too many
                              I don't buy the "but it's teh borders drawn in early 20th century which is at fault" -crap. The greater area has had plenty of time to settle the border disputes. Post-WWI, central Europe had artificial and crappily made borders, too; the half-German areas in Czechoslovakia spring up to one's mind. Now if borders, once dictated, are bound to tie nations into eternal conflicts, why aren't Germany and Czechia still at war?

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                              • #30
                                Are you serious about that question, VJ? Aren't you forgetting something here?

                                Munich settlement 1938? Annexion 1939? BLOODY WWII?

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