Pope to change D&D cosmology

[Bill3000]

Limbo was never offical church doctrine.

[Az]

I find the combination of "D&D" and "cosmology" in the same sentence extremely irritating.

[lord of the mark]

Limbo - in catholicism, a place for souls who are not yet ready to enter heaven

Limbo - in Judaism - a game/dance, obligatory at any Bar/Bat Mitzvah party involving a standard issue DJ, in which two adults whod rather be drinking and chatting with their friends are recruited to hold a "limbo stick" while a bunch of 13 year olds attempt to slither under said stick without touching it, at progressively lower heights.


I would not be unhappy to have some prominent group of rabbis abolish limbo, having been one of the unfortunate adults at a recent party, and having a sore arm the next day as a result

[Straybow]

Originally posted by Japher
Does Limbo get to roll for a save? I think it would be only fair. Of course, I'd give it a +2 save vs. pope bull****edness since it is a totally different plane and I think that type of magic is weaker there.

Hey, the Pope is just responding to divine revelation; this is God™'s move. If Ssendam or Ygorl can be killed by a mere 78th level half-elf-half-dwarf paladin-ranger-barbarian with a +23 sword of Slaad-slaying, what chance have they got against God™?

[MOBIUS]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Surely it's God who makes the rules, not the RC church?

You would have thought so, but apparently Catholicism is no less a construct of the imagination as 'Pope' Gygax's D&D universe...

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Surely it's God who makes the rules, not the RC church?

cant speak for RCC, but in traditional Judaism, its Rabbis who make the rules, wherever the torah is not clear. Proof text - "Its not in heaven" IE the law is given to man, to interpret. This makes it much for flexible for dealing with changing conditions, and frees us from fundie insanity. I presume the RCC takes a simlar stance. I cant imagine why secularists are attacking the RCC using what are, quite frankly, fundie Protestant arguments. Unless its just a desire to attack any religion at any time, in any place with any arguments available. Which bespeaks an obsession thats not quite healthy.

[MOBIUS]

Look, it's Santa Pope!

"Would you like to sit on my knee little boy, and I'll give you a 'present'...?"

What a ****ing loon...

[Dis]

Originally posted by MOBIUS


You would have thought so, but apparently Catholicism is no less a construct of the imagination as 'Pope' Gygax's D&D universe...

sad, but true.

[Cyclotron]

Originally posted by Az
I find the combination of "D&D" and "cosmology" in the same sentence extremely irritating.

Then you must never have played much of the game. Nearly all campaign settings, at least the ones put out by WotC, have distinct "cosmologies." What exactly is irritating about it?

[lord of the mark]

LIMBO ROCK
Chubby Checker
(W.E. Strange & Jon Sheldon (Kal Mann))

Every limbo boy and girl
All around the limbo world
Gonna do the limbo rock
All around the limbo clock
Jack be limbo, Jack be quick
Jack go unda limbo stick
All around the limbo clock
Hey, let's do the limbo rock

Limbo lower now
Limbo lower now
How low can you go

First you spread your limbo feet
Then you move to limbo beat
Limbo ankolimboneee,
Bend back like a limbo tree
Jack be limbo, Jack be quick
Jack go unda limbo stick
All around the limbo clock
Hey, let's do the limbo rock

la la la etc (instead of instrumental break)

Get yourself a limbo girl
Give that chic a limbo whirl
There's a limbo moon above
You will fall in limbo love
Jack be limbo, Jack be quick
Jack go unda limbo stick
All around the limbo clock
Hey, let's do the limbo rock

Don't move that limbo bar
You'll be a limbo star
How low can you go

Whistling closes song

[lord of the mark]

while theyre abolishing limbo, could they also abolish that stupid pepsi/coke game?

[Straybow]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
cant speak for RCC, but in traditional Judaism, its Rabbis who make the rules, wherever the torah is not clear. Proof text - "Its not in heaven" IE the law is given to man, to interpret. This makes it much for flexible for dealing with changing conditions, and frees us from fundie insanity. I presume the RCC takes a simlar stance. I cant imagine why secularists are attacking the RCC using what are, quite frankly, fundie Protestant arguments. Unless its just a desire to attack any religion at any time, in any place with any arguments available. Which bespeaks an obsession thats not quite healthy.

Sorry, dude. Sheol and YHWH didn't make the cut. They aren't in the 1st edition Players Handbook or any version or supplement released since.

But it isn't based on YHWH or the Roman Catholic God™ anyway. Your destination is based on alignment. Orthodox Jews might go to Arcadia, or even Nirvana. An observant Jew without the stick up his arse might go to Elysium or Twin Paradises.

Without Limbo they'll have to find a replacement or split the Chaotic Neutrals between Gladsheim and Pandemonium. This might be the choice facing the stereotypical liberal Jewish free-thinkers.

But the same holds for the Roman Catholics. Their God™ isn't to be found either, and they would be split up along these lines.

[duke o' york]

Originally posted by Straybow

Your destination is based on alignment. Orthodox Jews might go to Arcadia, or even Nirvana. An observant Jew without the stick up his arse might go to Elysium or Twin Paradises.

I'm chaotic good, and I'm off to the pub.

[Straybow]

I suppose there'd be a pub in Olympus.

[Cyclotron]

Originally posted by Straybow
Sorry, dude. Sheol and YHWH didn't make the cut. They aren't in the 1st edition Players Handbook or any version or supplement released since.

But it isn't based on YHWH or the Roman Catholic God™ anyway. Your destination is based on alignment. Orthodox Jews might go to Arcadia, or even Nirvana. An observant Jew without the stick up his arse might go to Elysium or Twin Paradises.

Without Limbo they'll have to find a replacement or split the Chaotic Neutrals between Gladsheim and Pandemonium. This might be the choice facing the stereotypical liberal Jewish free-thinkers.

But the same holds for the Roman Catholics. Their God™ isn't to be found either, and they would be split up along these lines.

Seems like the real stick-up-ass religionists would go to The Seven Heavens of Celestia - maybe Arcadia for the most annoying ones (Boy, that must be a real sh*tty plane. "We, uh, lost the last level - it became too lawful."). Elysium seems more like a Ghandi plane or something - nobody's in an organized religion, but they're all paragons of good.

By the way, what is "Gladsheim?" Limbo is bordered by Pandemonium and Ysgard, at least as of the latest editions.

But clearly where the American fundies belong is Acheron.