Dirty Republican Congressman admits taking bribes.

[MOBIUS]

Is NYE a virgin or something?

Sure seems like it the way he keeps 'banging' on about the Lewinsky thing...

Now accepting bribes...

[Ramo]

If campaign finance laws were violated, that is the charge the prosecutor should pursue. But if charges for violating campaign finance law cannot be proven, the necessary element of having obtained the money illegally cannot be shown, and therefore money laundering charges cannot be supported. The technique of focusing on money laundering charges rather than on the campaign finance law reeks of a witch hunt.

Why? I don't follow your reasoning. If the contributions were legally acquired, DeLay would be acquitted on money laundering. Why does the specific charge make any difference?

Note that TRMPAC has already been convicted in civil proceedings on this matter, so there is absolutely no basis to call this prosecution a "witch hunt"

Until Earle went after Sen. Hutchison with charges so baseless that he was forced to withdraw them, how much reason did the Republicans have to target him?

Earle didn't back off from Hutchison because the charges were "baseless," but because the judge threw out a key piece of evidence due to nit-picky procedural reasons having to do with a search.

Why, exactly, do you say that the charges were "baseless"?

I did not characterize it as having been done equally on both sides. Rather, I raised the possibility that both sides may have done it. Do you have any evidence to refute that possibility? If not, then neither of us has the information needed to know how TRIMPAC's behavior compares with that of other Texas political organizations.

Do I have any evidence that Democrats in Texas don't launder corporate contributions? What kind of rediculous question is that? It's like if I were to say, "do you have any proof that Dick Cheney does not eat babies?" The burden on proof is one you, if you're trying to assert an ethical equivalency between the parties.

Also note that Texas is one of the Southern states where, until the Republicans transformed the political landscape in 1994, the legacy of the Civil War and Reconstruction tended to give Democrats a considerable advantage over Republicans in state and local elections. That certainly helped to reduce the likelihood of Earle's facing Republican opposition during that period. So I think you're reading more into Earle's long period without Republican opposition than is warranted.

Not really. Other local Travis County offices were challenged by Republicans, but for some reason the DA's office was not. Obviously a cooincidence.

[Kuciwalker]

Earle didn't back off from Hutchison because the charges were "baseless," but because the judge threw out a key piece of evidence due to nit-picky procedural reasons having to do with a search.

I can't believe you of all people is calling a judge throwing out evidence because of how it was obtained "nit-picky"

[Ramo]

No, it really was nit-picky. Earle needed a subpeona for acquiring certain documents, but only had a perfectly valid search warrant based on plenty of probable cause.

I'm not saying that the judge in this situation made a bad call, merely that the conclusion of this prosecution doesn't imply that Earle made "baseless" charges.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker

Earle didn't back off from Hutchison because the charges were "baseless," but because the judge threw out a key piece of evidence due to nit-picky procedural reasons having to do with a search.

I can't believe you of all people is calling a judge throwing out evidence because of how it was obtained "nit-picky"

I find it incredible (and I'm not accusing you of this) that the toss of evidence due improper search&seizure is sometimes viewed as making the evidence irrelevant with regards to public opinion on the matter (and not just in a courtroom, where it's prohibited for good reason).

If somebody caught my representative taking bribes and he got off because the search warrant was invalid then he'd still be a scum-sucking bribe-taker.

[mrmitchell]

So what you're actually saying is at least Republican's own up to things? Unlike Democrat president's getting blow jobs in the Oval Office ?
Ok. Point made.

At least make a proper analogy.

The comparison of "Republican has a house bought for him by Boeing" would be "Bill Clinton got a blowjob from Boeing CEO." So, no.

[Zkribbler]

BTW: It was nobody's business but Hillary's what Bill and Monica were doing under the Oval Office desk.

The same cannot be said of defense contractors bribing a member of Congress to get defense contracts.

[DRoseDARs]

How dare you dodge the question of whether or not Bill Clinton is a scumbag, Z.

[DinoDoc]

Re: **** bag Republican Congressman admits taking bribes.

Originally posted by Oerdin
Hell, old Randy was just another corrupt Republican caught up in that party's culture of corruption and wasn't even the worst offender.

I'm sorry. What party did Traficant belong to again?

[DRoseDARs]

Given his voting record against public health and safety, I'd have to say the DINO Party.

Rep. Jim Traficant named to the "Dirty Dozen" List
League of Conservation Voters Action Fund targets Traficant for defeat, airs ads to inform public about Traficant's votes against clean water

YOUNGSTOWN, OH - March 1 - The League of Conservation Voters (LCV) Action Fund today named U.S. Representative Jim Traficant to its 2000 Dirty Dozen list of vulnerable, anti-environment Congressional candidates targeted by the group for defeat. Traficant, the eight-term Democratic incumbent representing Ohio's 17th Congressional district, last year ranked among the bottom three percent of House Democrats for his votes to roll back public health and safety protections. LCV political director Betsy Loyless made today's Dirty Dozen announcement at the Youngstown Club.

"Jim Traficant has a dirty record on clean water," Loyless said. "Ohio's 17th Congressional district faces some real challenges on issues like polluted rivers and toxics in the land, air and water. However, much of the progress made on addressing these issues has come in spite of Jim Traficant's voting record in Congress. Over 15 years in Congress, his voting record has gone from respectable to irrefutably poor. In 1999, Traficant voted for conservation and public health protections only 19 percent of the time. That's a failing grade in anyone's book."

Loyless said that Traficant was named to the Dirty Dozen because of his votes in Congress to weaken clean water protections, to undermine the public's right to know about toxics in their community and to undermine public health protections.

Traficant is the first Congressional candidate of the 2000 election cycle to be named by the LCV Action Fund to its Dirty Dozen list. The group is airing a television advertisement titled "Bad News" in the Youngstown market in an effort to encourage voters to cast their ballot against Traficant in the March 7 primary election. In the advertisement, LCV Action Fund promotes Democratic state Senator Bob Hagan as the pro-environment choice in the 17th district Congressional race.

In 1996 and 1998, LCV Action Fund's Dirty Dozen campaigns helped defeat sixteen anti-environmental candidates for Congress. LCV Action Fund is planning to spend over $3 million on its 2000 campaign activities, over $500,000 more than in 1998.

The nonprofit League of Conservation Voters is the bipartisan political voice for the environment. LCV is the only conservation organization dedicated full-time to informing the public and holding Members of Congress accountable for their environmental votes. The LCV Action Fund is LCV's political action committee that helps to elect Democratic and Republican pro-environment candidates and to defeat anti-environment candidates through the Dirty Dozen campaigns. To learn more about LCV, the Dirty Dozen campaigns or Congressional environmental voting records, access the LCV web page at www.lcv.org/dirtydozen.

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by DRoseDARs
How dare you dodge the question of whether or not Bill Clinton is a scumbag, Z.

How 'bout if I grant him scumbag status based upon the Rich pardon?

After that falderol, I'd support a constitutional amendment requiring the Senate to advise and consent on any presidential pardon.

[DRoseDARs]

Nay, Teh Clenis must be granted scumbag status for being Teh Clenis and nothing else, except maybe those 100 indictments that I can't seem to recall at this time...

[Dinner]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Is that going to be your advice to a client who gets his dick wet in an intern.

She's not an employee?

What company should I avoid at all costs for personnel needs?

I donlt give a fig if the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders decided to Do Clinton. He was WRONG. <--- full stop

Typical red herring bullsh!t.

Charge: "Republican Congressman goes to jail for taking millions in bribes".

Asinine defense: "Oh, yeah?! Well... Ughhhhh.... CLINTON GOT A BLOW JOB!!!!!"

That gets you the much dreaded double rolleyes.

[Joseph]

Originally posted by Giancarlo


You're the weasel. Look at you, and read my sources.

What are you? Stupid? The current adminstration has been much more clean then the Clinton adminstration in comparsion.

You are a fact denier.

"HUD Secretary Henry Cisneros was indicted on 18 counts of conspiracy, giving false statements and obstruction of Justice. He pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor of lying to the FBI about the amount of money he gave his mistress, political fundraiser Linda Medlar. Medlar plead guilty to 28 counts related to the investigation. Both Medlar and Cisneros were pardoned by Clinton.

Webster Hubbell, appointed by then Governor Clinton as chief justice of the Arkansas State Supreme Court, and later by President Clinton as associate Attorney General of the United States, plead guilty to federal mail fraud and tax evasion charges in connection with his handling of billing at the Rose Law Firm where he worked with Hillary Clinton."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Administration

Shall I go on?

You forgot Mr. Ron Brown who was being investigating by everyone, but died in a plane crash and then Clinton fired 2 Air Force Gen. in charge of the Wing that the airplane belong to.

[Dinner]

So am I the only one not surprised that after months of Republicans and talk radio hosts claiming the evil democrats were just picking on Cunningham that he really was guilty? Kind of makes you wonder about the claims these same Republicans have made about evil Democrats just picking on poor Frist and Delay. Doesn't it?