Dirty Republican Congressman admits taking bribes.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Giancarlo


How so? I named some people. And I'm not going to name 100. Listen up, I have classes tomorrow. I know you don't have a life. And that's a pity. But I do, and I don't have time for this ****.

"Some?" You named TWO. Of course you're not going to name 100, because there aren't 100, nor even 10. It's a bull**** claim and yet another example of your BAMing.

Yes, we all know you have a life, as it were. We'll watch in earnest, eager anticipation to see if you can overcome your grief over the guy whom you've been seeing for two weeks going out to club without telling you

[DRoseDARs]

Originally posted by Vesayen
*sells tickets and popcorn outside the thread to fund his education*

That might be for not. Seems he's prime for taking his ball and going home with it.

Silly Fez, always working yourself into such a huff. Why can't you just channel your rage into a little corner of your mind leading to a psychosis in later years like everyone else here?

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


"Some?" You named TWO. Of course you're not going to name 100, because there aren't 100, nor even 10. It's a bull**** claim and yet another example of your BAMing.

Yes, we all know you have a life, as it were. We'll watch in earnest, eager anticipation to see if you can overcome your grief over the guy whom you've been seeing for two weeks going out to club without telling you

How is it baming? If i was there i'd hit you over the side of your head real hard. I'm sorry but I don't put up with your stupid crap anymore.

it has been a bit more then two weeks too.. my blogs always come a bit later. And it was a gay club for his friend's birthday.. big ****ing deal. I agreed to compromise, and said he should go. (I didn't say could go, because I am not going to control what one does)

so tell me, are you single?

[Ted Striker]

No stop asking and no I am not going to the 24 Hour Fitness sauna room with you pervert.

[SlowwHand]

Speaking of weasels, why avoid the question of banging hired help?
He's admitted it.

[Az]

A far more interesting question: what did they do to the scumbags that gave the bribes?

[Ted Striker]

Gave them all promotions.

[notyoueither]

Re: Re: **** bag Republican Congressman admits taking bribes.

Originally posted by nbarclay


From what I understand, Texas law justifies charges of money laundering only if the money was obtained through illegal activities. What DeLay's organization did was analogous to money laundering, and was certainly against the spirit of the Texas campaign finance laws (assuming reports of what happened are reasonably accurate), but my impression is that it does not meet the legal definition of money laundering.

Looking at what happened in a vacuum, I would be inclined to view that kind of effort to circumvent campaign finance laws as unethical even assuming it was not technically illegal. But such issues cannot be looked at in a vacuum because the political system can function properly only if both sides play by the same rules. If DeLay's group went way outside the bounds of accepted behavior in essentially exchanging money that could not legally be given to particular campaigns for money that could, then there is a serious ethical problem even if DeLay is not guilty of a crime. But if similar practices are fairly common in other Texas political organizations, including organizations from both parties, then singling out DeLay and his organization merely because they played the game more effectively than others and a Democratic prosecutor is angry about his party's loss of power would itself be grossly unjust. Without seeing the results of a comprehensive investigation of whether other political organizations used similar tactics, I have no way to reach a conclusion about the ethics of the situation.

As for the rest of the picture, I consider it disgusting how ethical issues so often become excuses for partisan politics. When entire parties are blamed for wrongdoing or ethical lapses by individual members, that turns up the pressure for both parties to gloss over and make excuses for ethical problems instead of doing an effective job of policiing themselves. That helps to contribute to a culture of corruption - especially when we look beyond the mere letter of the law - in both parties.

If American politics are to be cleaned up, we need for our leaders to focus a lot less on partisanship and a lot more on the idea that we should demand high standards of ethics without regard to party. Efforts to improve ethical standards and to address failures to meet those standards need to be bi-partisan and non-partisan, with the two parties working together to address the problems without fear that the other party will deliberately manipulate those efforts for partisan political advantage. Efforts by one party and its supporters to try to portray the entire other party as corrupt work directly against the needed bipartisanship, and raise enormous barriers against the ability of honest citizens from both parties to ally against corruption and low standards of ethics in both parties.

That is not to say that corruption can never be a legitimate political issue. But issues of ethics need to be handled in an ethical way, focusing on the guilty without trying to spread blame to the innocent in an effort to gain partisan advantage.

I should imagine this deserves a response once the frenzy over Fez dies down.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Giancarlo
it has been a bit more then two weeks too.. my blogs always come a bit later. And it was a gay club for his friend's birthday.. big ****ing deal. I agreed to compromise, and said he should go. (I didn't say could go, because I am not going to control what one does)

so tell me, are you single?

wtf?

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Giancarlo
How is it baming? If i was there i'd hit you over the side of your head real hard. I'm sorry but I don't put up with your stupid crap anymore.

Duhh, it's BAMing because you made a bald-ass assertion that was totally wrong. Like always.

it has been a bit more then two weeks too.. my blogs always come a bit later. And it was a gay club for his friend's birthday.. big ****ing deal. I agreed to compromise, and said he should go. (I didn't say could go, because I am not going to control what one does)

Let's see what your blog says about the incident:

http://www.myspace.com/giancarlo1985

"Shattered"
"Great disarray and sadness"

So you call it this, and DIDN'T think it was a big deal? Come on.

so tell me, are you single?

No...and if I were, what difference would that make?

EDIT: Now I've seen you've restricted viewing the blog entries. Pathetic!

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov

Let's see what your blog says about the incident:

http://www.myspace.com/giancarlo1985

"Shattered"
"Great disarray and sadness"

So you call it this, and DIDN'T think it was a big deal? Come on.



EDIT: Now I've seen you've restricted viewing the blog entries. Pathetic!

No...and if I were, what difference would that make?

Hey, first off my blogs had to do with my friends, my potential love interest, and my family. There were other issues going on in my life.

So please, shut the **** up.

You are the one who is pathetic. I will restrict my blog entries to myspace friends.

Edit: And those are ****ing personal, if you ****ing can't respect that (like recently) then I'll make them restricted. Maybe if you weren't such an insensitive ******* then I wouldn't react this way.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Speaking of weasels, why avoid the question of banging hired help?
He's admitted it.

Doesn't that moot your point? Your initial post was that the Republican Congressman in question owned up to it. So did Clinton. At least Clinton's transgression was about a private sexual affair, not taking bribes in return for votes. Only a complete dumbass would think they're remotely comparable in terms of the seriousness of the transgression.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Giancarlo
Hey, first off my blogs had to do with my friends, my potential love interest, and my family. There were other issues going on in my life.

So please, shut the **** up.

You are the one who is pathetic. I will restrict my blog entries to myspace friends.

Edit: And those are ****ing personal, if you ****ing can't respect (like recently) then I'll make them restricted. Maybe if you weren't such an insensitive ******* then I wouldn't react this way.

Then why the hell did you post a link to them here on Apolyton and invite everyone to look at them?

[notyoueither]

In what universe is banging a person under your power on the desk of the Oval Office a 'private sexual affair'?

[notyoueither]

It should be a very public matter, to me.