Do you see china as "the enemy"?

[Vesayen]

Originally posted by mindseye
Vesayen, you seem unclear on the difference between "enemy" and "competitor".

Every competitor who has the potential to beat us in the marketplace or militarily, is an enemy.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Vesayen



Every competitor who has the potential to beat us in the marketplace or militarily, is an enemy.

And this isn't insane at all.....

[SpencerH]

I'm not sure I would classify them as an 'enemy' but I am sure I wouldnt classify them as a 'friend'.

[Whoha]

Originally posted by Sandman
What's the alternative to a surplus of old people? Eternal population growth?

that, or atleast population replacement.

and as to the question, yes.

[lord of the mark]

A potential enemy. It would be a mistake to either assume they are an enemy, and so create a self fulfilling prophecy, or to be unprepared for the possibility that their rise does not remain peaceful.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Vesayen



Every competitor who has the potential to beat us in the marketplace or militarily, is an enemy.

In which case in say, 1793, both France AND Britain should have been seen as enemies.

Fortunately the founding fathers didnt see things that way, and signed the Jay treaty with Britain, and kept the undeclared war with France limited, and ended it during John Adams' term. (of course the Jeffersonians opposed the Jay treaty, and the Hamiltonians wanted all out war with France - fortunately both were out maneuvered - Adams in particular being in the swing position and supporting the less militant option both times)

[Vesayen]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


In which case in say, 1793, both France AND Britain should have been seen as enemies.

Fortunately the founding fathers didnt see things that way, and signed the Jay treaty with Britain, and kept the undeclared war with France limited, and ended it during John Adams' term. (of course the Jeffersonians opposed the Jay treaty, and the Hamiltonians wanted all out war with France - fortunately both were out maneuvered - Adams in particular being in the swing position and supporting the less militant option both times)

Enemy does not always imply war.

More importantly you need sufficient competition for rescources to make them an enemy.

France and Brittain did not compete for the same rescources we did, on a level great enough to make them enemies just for that.

Originally posted by Agathon


And this isn't insane at all.....

It has been the standing policy of basically every goverment for the last 4,000 years.

[BeBMan]

Nonsense.

[Sandman]

Obviously the marketplace is of a fixed size, and every Chinese success is at someone's expense.

[Flip McWho]

It has been the standing policy of basically every goverment for the last 4,000 years.

And we all know how peaceful those 4000yrs were don't we. Go the old mindset

[Flip McWho]

Zero sum game, zero sum game, zero sum game, zero sum game, zero sum game!!!!!!!!

[Last Conformist]

Why was America in an undeclared war with France, anyway?

[Richelieu]

They were afraid that if they did declare war, France would have run off to South East Asia or northern Australia. That would have ****cked up the geopolitical balance there. And the relationship with the Ozzies .

[Bill3000]

It would be cooler if they became enemies, although I hope that they don't.

[The Mad Viking]

Vesayen, try just for a moment to imagine you are from any other country in the world. Say, Brazil.

Now repeat what you said about "enemies".

Every competitor who has the potential to beat us in the marketplace or militarily, is an enemy.

Now apply that from the perspective of Brazil.

USA is our enemy.

Works for every country in the world.

Does the USA really want to be enemies with every country in the world?