Are You Ready for Some FOOTBALL! - Week 14

[Sava]

There are only two teams that have a winning record in the top 10 of turnover ratio (Indy and Carolina) that are also a top 5 Total Defense...

And those teams just happen to be two of the highest scoring teams in the NFL.

Indy at 30 ppg, Carolina at 24 ppg... (27 before playing the Bears! )

So there is a DIRECT CORRELATION between having a good offense and having a high turnover ratio.

Which is why winning teams like Dallas, Chicago, and Tampa Bay (the 1, 2, and 6 NFL defenses) don't have high turnover ratios.

This is why I am an NFL FOOTBALL EXPERT and you are not.

[joncha]

Yes. It's always good when your offence causes turnovers...

[Sava]

the turnover ratio measures TAKEAWAYS BY THE DEFENSE and SUBTRACTS TURNOVERS BY THE OFFENSE

[joncha]

I do it for the ALLCAPS.

[Sava]

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[joncha]

[Frozzy]

lol, apparantly at the Lions game the fans were all chanting "Lets go Red Wings!" in the 4th quarter... sounds about right

[Sava]

Originally posted by Kalius
lol, apparantly at the Lions game the fans were all chanting "Lets go Red Wings!" in the 4th quarter... sounds about right

I miss Blackhawks-Red Wings games


"DE-TROIT SUCKS"

"DE-TROIT SUCKS"

"DE-TROIT SUCKS"

[snoopy369]

Um ... Sava, why does good offense correlate with high turnover ratio?

Oh yeah... because not turning the ball over means you score more points.

Good offense requires NOT turning the ball over. Good defense does not require getting turnovers, although it doesn't hurt. Therefore, good offenses who also have good defenses are going to tend to have better turnover ratios than bad offenses with good defenses (and i'd argue good offenses with poor/mediocre defenses, such as Cincy, would also have better TO ratios than good defenses/poor-mediocre offenses). Simply put, it's more important to the offense than to the defense.


Edit: That's what I get for not reading the preceding page's posts.

Apparently I AGREE with sava...

Please shoot me now ...

[Sava]

Yes. Thank you Captain Obvious.

What does this have to do with my PWNAGE of Jaguar the debate?

edit: xpost DANSER

/me shoots snoopy!!!

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Sava
actually, I totally PWNED you

Three...

and the teams the Bears have beaten have a winning percentage of .420.421

and the teams that the Bears have faced, overall, have a winning percentage of .486.447

Corrected.

ACK!

[Sava]

Originally posted by snoopy369
Um ... Sava, why does good offense correlate with high turnover ratio?

Oh yeah... because not turning the ball over means you score more points.

Good offense requires NOT turning the ball over. Good defense does not require getting turnovers, although it doesn't hurt. Therefore, good offenses who also have good defenses are going to tend to have better turnover ratios than bad offenses with good defenses (and i'd argue good offenses with poor/mediocre defenses, such as Cincy, would also have better TO ratios than good defenses/poor-mediocre offenses). Simply put, it's more important to the offense than to the defense.

well, this is not always necessarily true...

look at New England, St. Louis, and to a lesser extent, Arizona...

good offenses, but poor turnover ratios...

[Sava]

Originally posted by Tuberski


Corrected.

ACK!

oops

second one was off

but your rounding is wrong

it is .420 and .446

.44628099 is 54 of 121 games

.420454545 is 37 of 88 games

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Sava


oops

second one was off

but your rounding is wrong

it is .420 and .446

.44628099 is 54 of 121 games

.420454545 is 37 of 88 games

My rounding isn't off, I just added the winning percentages and divided by 11.

The rounding made the winning percentages a little off when added together.

ACK!

[Sava]

ah I see...

it's interesting how people use different methods to come to a solution