Women are to blame for being raped

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Drogue
Well, rape is defined as a forcible penetration of the man's penis into the women. A women cannot penetrate a man, so she cannot rape him.

Then maybe the legal definition needs to be changed.


What crime can a male victim charge a femal perpetrator with, if, say, the woman publicly humiliated him at a party, where the man was drunk off his ass, by pulling his pants and underwear down, and revealing all his "glory" to everyone at the party?

The man was victimized in this situation, but if that is not rape, then what can we call this type of victimization?

[Japher]

Well, rape is defined as a forcible penetration of the man's penis into the women. A women cannot penetrate a man, so she cannot rape him.

Nowhere in there does it state that it is the man doing the forcing!

just no lesbian rape........ oh, sorry, I drifted there, and no gay rape.

[Az]

I don't think that pulling a woman's dress off constitutes as rape, either.

[Reader81]

rape - The crime of forcing another person to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse.
The act of seizing and carrying off by force; abduction.
Abusive or improper treatment; violation: a rape of justice.

raped, rap·ing, rapes -
To force (another person) to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse; commit rape on.
To seize and carry off by force.
To plunder or pillage.

[MrFun]

So then what is it then? If such an act as you or I described cannot be defined as any type of victimization, then it's perfectly legal to forcibly strip someone of his/her clothes as long as there is no forced sexual penetration?

[Japher]

that could be assualt

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Japher
that could be assualt

You win the money prize!

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Japher
Nowhere in there does it state that it is the man doing the forcing!

just no lesbian rape........ oh, sorry, I drifted there, and no gay rape.

Actually, there are laws against gay rape, it's just that a women can never be convicted of it. It's about the person who penetrates, not the person who initiates it. A women cannot penetrate a man, therefore cannot be guilty of rape.

She can be guilty of sexual harrassmant or sexual assault, but not rape.

[Japher]

nm: wrong window

[Drogue]

UK Law:

LAWS RELATING TO RAPE
According to the Penal Code Section 376, a man is said to have committed rape if he has sexual intercourse with a woman under any of the following conditions or circumstances:

Against her will. Although the woman is capable of giving her consent, she willfully and consciously rejects sexual intercourse with a man, but is forced into it.

Without her consent. Sexual intercourse may take place without the woman's consent because she is incapable of giving her consent, For example, she may have been drugged and as such may have been unconscious at the time of the incident. This can also apply to a person who is incapable of giving a conscious consent to the act due to mental deficiency or insanity.

With her consent, but the consent was obtained as a result of putting fear in the woman of hurt or death to herself or any other person, or when the consent obtained under a misconception of fact and the man knows or has reason to believe that the consent was given in consequent of such a misconception. For example, when a bomoh or a sinseh promises to cure a girl of some form of ailment provided she has sex with him, even though he knows that the sexual act does in no way contribute towards the healing. It also applies to a bogus physician who rapes a patient while pretending to give medical treatment.

With her consent, but the man knows that he is not her husband, and her consent is given because she believes that he is another man to whom she is or believes herself to be lawfully married or to whom she would consent With her consent but when at the time of consent, she is unable to understand the nature and consequence of that to which she gives consent. This could be if she is drunk or is high on drugs.

With or without her consent, when she is under sixteen years of age. This is because children and teenagers below this age are deemed by the nature of this immature judgement, legally unable to give consent.


The Penal Code also states that penetration is sufficient to constitute the sexual intercourse necessary to the offence of rape. By penetration it is meant even partial penetration or the slightest degree of entrance of the penis into the labia or vulva or pendendrum with or without the emission of semen.

The exception to the Law is in the case of a man having sexual intercourse with his wife without her consent within a marriage which is valid under any written law for the time being in force, or is recognised by the state as valid, is not rape. However, the Law recognises that rape takes place if a woman is forced to have sex by her husband while she is living separately from him under a decree of judicial separation or a decree nisi not made absolute, or if the woman has obtained an injunction restraining her husband from having sexual intercourse with her.

Punishment for rape
Section 376 of the Penal Code states that whoever commits rape shall be punished with imprisonment for a term of not less than five years and not more than twenty years, and shall also be liable to whipping.

[Japher]

there are laws against gay rape

that could be assault

[Reader81]

simly, if men force put his penis in her ***** or she force her ***** get that penis in her, then it's rape, but if guys grab her ass, or she grab his penis then it's not rape. But I'm not sure since men's penis or ball hurt easly so if women grab men's penis so hard it' will her, so women blame men for letting her grab her penis because she grab so hard it's will hurt his penis or ball for that matter, not sure.

[The Mad Viking]

In Canada, rape laws were replaced with "Sexual Assault" because we had the same archaic laws as Britain.

However, if you pinch a woman's ass, you can be convicted of sexual assault. Many people have been convicted of sexual assualt where the crime was touching a women's (clothed) breast.

And, if you beat a woman senseless and brutally rape and sodomize her for several hours, you would be convicted of...

...sexual assault.

It has the same 3 levels, for severity, that common assault does. So in case one, above, it is Sexual Assault, Level One; in the latter case, Sexual Assault, Level Three.

You would almost think the media invented the law. They love publishing the name of someone and pointing out that they were charged or convicted of Sexual Assault. I have NEVER observed the media mention the level of Sexual Assault, or even that different levels exist.

[Odin]

Originally posted by The Mad Viking

You would almost think the media invented the law. They love publishing the name of someone and pointing out that they were charged or convicted of Sexual Assault. I have NEVER observed the media mention the level of Sexual Assault, or even that different levels exist.

Same in the US, people don't distinguish different levels of sex crimes. When people here that a sex offender has moved into town people go nuts thinking he is some kind of monster, but that person just might of gotten jail time because of some stupidly written statutory rape laws.

[Dis]

Originally posted by Drogue

Actually, there are laws against gay rape, it's just that a women can never be convicted of it. It's about the person who penetrates, not the person who initiates it. A women cannot penetrate a man, therefore cannot be guilty of rape.

She can be guilty of sexual harrassmant or sexual assault, but not rape.

a woman could put her finger up a guy's ass. That is penetration. sorry for the graphic image, but I had to be clear on this.