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  • #76
    Originally posted by Sphinx871
    Dude, it lights on fire the second it touches oxygen; it'd be impossible to mistake for any powder (unless he snorts it in a vacuum).


    No sh*t. Thanks for the input and missing the joke.
    The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

    The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Sphinx871
      Dude, it lights on fire the second it touches oxygen; it'd be impossible to mistake for any powder (unless he snorts it in a vacuum).
      "post reported"Winston, on the barricades for freedom of speech
      "I don't like laws all over the world. Doesn't mean I am going to do anything but post about it."Jon Miller

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      • #78
        Bush is a hoser.
        ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
        ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Oerdin
          What countries are going to launch nukes again?
          Actually, and despite some of the more maniacal voices on the left, both Bush Sr and Reagan were devoted to one goal above all others: avoiding nuclear war.

          Reagan actually wanted to share Star Wars with the USSR at one point (to the horror of his advisors), and Bush was clear that he viewed Gulf War I as a means of increasing multilateral engagement as a means to avoiding a third world war. He'd fought in the last world war, and wanted to avoid another at all costs.

          Whatever else you think of Bush and Reagan, their overriding commitment to avoiding a third world war and their horror at the prospect of nuclear conflict places them on the rational side of the dispute about it. Both were skilled diplomats who were aware of the way in which the world works and the limited power the US has at its hands to affect the outcome.

          I don't like Bush sr, but I respect him a lot. The two are not mutually exclusive.

          The current administration is full of people who do not understand this, or do but pretend they don't. They are imperiling the future security of the rest of us with their stupidity.
          Only feebs vote.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Oerdin
            anything tremendously unethical that Bush 1988-1992 did.

            er, calling on Iraqis to revolt, and then turning aside when they did so?

            Im sure I could look up various dictators he supported. I seem to recall something about the contras, before he took office.
            "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Agathon

              The current administration is full of people who do not understand this, or do but pretend they don't. They are imperiling the future security of the rest of us with their stupidity.
              We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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              • #82
                Originally posted by lord of the mark



                er, calling on Iraqis to revolt, and then turning aside when they did so?

                Im sure I could look up various dictators he supported. I seem to recall something about the contras, before he took office.
                This is one of the reasons I initially supported a second invasion. It was the US's job to right this wrong after Bush asked them to revolt and then sold them out.

                On second look, maybe the no-fly zones were somewhat of a way to make up for that wrong.

                But the second invasion has sold all the Iraqis out even more, with the exception of the Kurds, who were still doing well before the second invasion, under the protection of the no-fly zones. Now the aveage Iraqi's life is more miserable than it was before.
                We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                • #83
                  Yeah, it was a pretty underhanded thing to get the Shi'as to revolt by promising to help them then sitting aside while Saddam slaughtered them.
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                  • #84
                    In his defense, I don't think Bush thought that would happen. I know he was haunted by that decision, but he felt that he'd given his word to too many other parties to do much about it. He fumbled away a lot in those last few weeks.
                    He's got the Midas touch.
                    But he touched it too much!
                    Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by lord of the mark

                      er, calling on Iraqis to revolt, and then turning aside when they did so?

                      Im sure I could look up various dictators he supported. I seem to recall something about the contras, before he took office.

                      Bailing out family and friends in the Savings and Loan scandals ?

                      Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                      ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by DanS
                        This is a funny thread. The Dems can't even do a proper whisper campaign nowadays.
                        The Washington Times is Democratic?

                        Anyway, there is no way to prove something like this a falsehood in a politically relevant timeframe. But if he seriously fell off the wagon, he'd start looking like hell. So far, to me, he looks reasonably fit.
                        Nothing in the article made reference to his drinking again.
                        Tutto nel mondo è burla

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