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  • #16
    Originally posted by GePap


    Why not? Are you saying that violent religious faith is sane?

    Interesting viewpoint.....
    Either I haven't made myself clear enough, or you have misunderstood me a bit

    In my view, religion can never be an explanation or excuse for any kind of violent action.

    I don't know the precise term in english, but trying to to "excuse" ones crimes because it was because of religius reasons, should be the reason of harder punishment.

    There are no excuse in claming "I just did it because of my religioius belief" !!!
    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by BlackCat


      Either I haven't made myself clear enough, or you have misunderstood me a bit

      In my view, religion can never be an explanation or excuse for any kind of violent action.

      I don't know the precise term in english, but trying to to "excuse" ones crimes because it was because of religius reasons, should be the reason of harder punishment.

      There are no excuse in claming "I just did it because of my religioius belief" !!!
      Religions has proven itself to be the best and most common excuse for violence ever. After all, what are mere human morals to the will of the almighty? And besides, heathens and infidels are damned anyways, so lets just get them to hell faster.

      So you want to punish fanatical faith extra? Ohh, the anti-hates crime brigade is going to come down on your head
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      • #18
        anti-religion troll: 1/10

        I'm sure there is plenty more violence waged for other things like power, pride, love, politics, and of course... communism.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by GePap

          So you want to punish fanatical faith extra? Ohh, the anti-hates crime brigade is going to come down on your head
          It is actually worse than you think - people doesn't have to be fanatics to be punishable - beliving in some kind of religionis enough.
          With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by OzzyKP
            anti-religion troll: 1/10

            I'm sure there is plenty more violence waged for other things like power, pride, love, politics, and of course... communism.


            You are quite right that there are a lot of other reasons to commit genocide etc. but I really wouldn't mind if the prime reason to such in human history was for ever eradicated - then we could work to get rid of all the other reasons.
            With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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            • #21
              If you think there would be no/less violence without religion you're delusional. We humans would find plenty of other reasons to kill eachother over.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by GePap


                Religions has proven itself to be the best and most common excuse for violence ever.
                It has also ecouraged great acts of charity and empathy (Mother Theresa, etc). religion is neutral, it is how people USE religious belief to manipulate people for good or bad ends which is good or evil.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Mercator
                  If you think there would be no/less violence without religion you're delusional. We humans would find plenty of other reasons to kill eachother over.
                  QFT.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by GePap


                      Religions has proven itself to be the best and most common excuse for violence ever. After all, what are mere human morals to the will of the almighty? And besides, heathens and infidels are damned anyways, so lets just get them to hell faster.

                      So you want to punish fanatical faith extra? Ohh, the anti-hates crime brigade is going to come down on your head

                      Yeah -- I mean, my mother, who is a devout Catholic, has pathological tendencies towards wanting to kill innocent people in the hometown I grew up in.
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                      • #26
                        Re: Three teenage girls beheaded in Indonesia

                        Were they hot?

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                        • #27
                          Re: Three teenage girls beheaded in Indonesia

                          Originally posted by SlowwHand



                          That, is a lot of the problem. Brothers and sisters?
                          This sonofa***** needs to watch while his family is beheaded.


                          Um, Slowwy, the guy said he abhorred this act, and appealed to the common humanity by using words "brothers and sisters" as far as I understand the statement.

                          I'm not sure why you got your panties all knotted in a twist.
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                          • #28
                            Re: Re: Three teenage girls beheaded in Indonesia

                            Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                            Were they hot?
                            Seeing that you believe I lack any sense of humor, can you point out to me the funny part of this remark of yours?
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                            • #29
                              Re: Re: Three teenage girls beheaded in Indonesia

                              Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                              Were they hot?
                              Arsehole.
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                              • #30
                                Re: Re: Three teenage girls beheaded in Indonesia

                                Originally posted by DinoDoc
                                Do you have a real problem with the statement or are you just *****ing about nothing?

                                Damned right I have a problem with it.
                                Seems to me like a halfass effort, brother.
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