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White Nationalist, and Mexican nationalists maps of future USA.
On a more serious note, I wasn't talking about the WS, I was talking about the general american public opinion. I thought jews, esp. East european were considered white.
With Italians, it really depends on whom you ask. Many Black people are convinced Italians are Black. Many of the more "race-conscious" also consider Italians Black. Thben and I can pass as white, since we're Irish-Italian mutts.
Az, I wasn't talking about white supremicists. They don't consider you human, so being white isn't really a question.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
I have never met ANYONE who considers Italians non-white.
Nor have I.
I have met stupid people who don't like Catholics and so don't like Italians. I've also heard the really old term "black Italians" which essential means Italians who were part Arab due to the brief Arab occupation of Southern most Italy; that resulted in their skin being slightly darker then your average European around 1900. Never really a major phrase though.
The point you are missing is that race is arbitrary (and changing). 150 years ago, the Irish weren't considered white. With Italians (or any Mediterranian), anyone who wasn't a racist would probably agree that we're obviously white, but there are still an awful lot of racists around. A friend of mine in Britain once heard someone screaming, "You Black Bastard!" and she looked around, and the dude getting screamed at was Greek. She had a WTF moment. The point being, for some people, only NW Europeans are truely white.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
Originally posted by Az
* Az scratches head again.
What about Spaniards then? or are they under the bizzare 'latino' category?
It all depends on whom you ask.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
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