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  • #61
    Originally posted by DanS
    Obviously, it's smaller, but I'm having trouble understanding your logic. Toyota branding is a potential market for Google. It might not get a lot of the branding business, but it's still a potential market. Indeed, it might even be particularly effective in branding, but we just don't know it yet.

    Meanwhile, a good chunk of the local TV news ad budget from Fitzgerald Auto Mall based on the Toyota brand is going over to Google.
    Look, I stated that the market seems to expect revenues between $25 and $40 billion dollars. You asserted that's doable citing the size of the global advertising market. Then I stated only certain market components have potential for Google. And now you agree with that, yet argue that there's potential beyond that anyway.

    Either you claim Google has access to a market worth $500 billion, either you claim Google only has access to subcomponents. You can't do both.
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    • #62
      my money's still on hotbot.com to take over the world

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      • #63
        Look, I stated that the market seems to expect revenues between $25 and $40 billion dollars. You asserted that's doable citing the size of the global advertising market. Then I stated only certain market components have potential for Google. And now you agree with that, yet argue that there's potential beyond that anyway.
        Long story short, I can imagine Google getting a share of almost all of the market, by either substituting online for offline or applying Google's technology or advertising network to offline ads.
        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
          how did google become so popular? what happened to yahoo?
          Google's about as popular as Yahoo! But here's why Google is a better business proposition.

          Let's say Google's searching is twice as relevant as Yahoo!'s, meaning that the ads that Google serves are clicked on twice as much as Yahoo!'s. Further, each click on a Google ad leads to twice as many sales as a click on a Yahoo! ad, so people are willing to pay twice as much for a Google ad. Google would then get 4x the revenue of Yahoo! for an ad.

          The fixed costs of Google and Yahoo! are the same, even though Google is being paid 4x what Yahoo! is being paid, so Google is profitting off of a search more than 4x compared to Yahoo!
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • #65
            Originally posted by DanS


            Long story short, I can imagine Google getting a share of almost all of the market, by either substituting online for offline or applying Google's technology or advertising network to offline ads.
            And I think that's bull****. Let's agree to disagree. I also want to bet your avatar that Google will be worth less than $50 billion by November 2007.
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            • #66
              It's a bet. 1 month duration?
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • #67
                Google is actually pulling in dotcomesque numbers, except they are doing it for real, instead of relying on get-rich-quick projections.

                Now that I look back on it, some of those annual reports being put out were just outright criminal.
                We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                • #68
                  We need a topped thread of Avatar bets.

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                  • #69
                    Google can really target ads to people's interests by seeing what they search for then customizing the ads that person sees. Advertisers know this and that's why they're willing to pay extra to get this targeted delivery method.
                    Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Colon


                      And I think that's bull****. Let's agree to disagree. I also want to bet your avatar that Google will be worth less than $50 billion by November 2007.
                      What are they worth now? Would 50 billion be an increase or decrease in their value?
                      We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                      • #71
                        Googles current market cap is $98.6 billion.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by DanS
                          It's a bet. 1 month duration?
                          Agreed.

                          (same thing for me btw)
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Ted Striker
                            Now that I look back on it, some of those annual reports being put out were just outright criminal.
                            Well, actually, they were...

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                            • #74
                              Yeah
                              We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                              • #75
                                Marketwatch has the market cap at $103.4 billion. Wonder if the discrepancy lies in the secondary offering.

                                marketwatch.com
                                http://www.marketwatch.com/tools/quotes/quotes.asp?symb=goog&siteid=mktw&dist=mktwqn
                                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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