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Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
Democracy based upon the idea of all men created equal.
Has it been implimented yet?
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Originally posted by KrazyHorse
It was certainly thriving after a couple of dozen years of Tudor rule.
Quite- and yet of course it took a dynasty founded by a Welshman to begin the idea of a distinctively English nation and culture (excepting the likes of Chaucer and Wiclif).
The reign of Henry VIII saw aggressive English nationalism, to act as counter-balance to French ambitions- hence teh shipbuilding programme, the use of the Tudor rose as a nationalist emblem and even a model for coastal fortifications, as at Deal and St Mawes.
It also saw the growth of English as a medium for popular and high culture, in the Tudor interludes, English prayer books and vernacular bibles, and English architecture.
The Tudor dynasty saw the beginning of the end of a separate Cornish cultural identity, and the greatest flowering of English literature so far- the debates about the fitness of the English language to express religious and philosophical thought, poetry and drama begin with the Tudors.
And of course, the beginning of the Anglican church. In fact, during Edward VI's reign England briefly became the intellectual centre of Protestantism in Northern Europe.
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But Democracy has been around since the time of the Greek Philosphers.
Athenian and Roman democracies differed in that only citizens were considered equal. Not all folk were citizens or even guaranteed the opportunity to become so.
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About as well as any human ideal. Including such virteues as spelling.
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Athenian and Roman democracies differed in that only citizens were considered equal. Not all folk were citizens or even guaranteed the opportunity to become so.
Which hadn't changed with respect to Chinese residents of the United States in the 19th Century, or many African Americans either, yet the United States was still a 'democracy' of sorts.
The idea of 'democracy', the citizens' right to vote out or ostracise a ruler or government begins with the Greeks- contrasting neatly with their main opponents, the Achaemenids, ruled by a semi-divine Emperor, not subject to any kind of vote at all.
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Which hadn't changed with respect to Chinese residents of the United States in the 19th Century, or many African Americans either, yet the United States was still a 'democracy' of sorts.
The idea of 'democracy', the citizens' right to vote out or ostracise a ruler or government begins with the Greeks- contrasting neatly with their main opponents, the Achaemenids, ruled by a semi-divine Emperor, not subject to any kind of vote at all.
You'll note my inital post referred to the part where all men were created equal hence able to achieve citizenship. Thus the distinction from ancient democracies.
As for what happened in the 19th century, your point? since the innovations are of the last 250 years inclusive of any modifications/refinements made in the intervening years.
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English nationalism was alive and well at the end of the Hundred Years' War
English Patriotism, perhaps. NOt Nationalism. Different thing.
The fact Romans were proud to be Romans did not make them Roman Nationalists. Ditto for Athenians, or anyone beforehand.
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