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Hershel's not here to defend his interests, I'm afraid.
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I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891 -
A government contract is a trade. Subsidies and tax-credits are both hand-outs, but on opposite ends of the fiscal machinery. The difference between them is one of accounting: a nominal one, rather than one of substance.Originally posted by KrazyHorse
The relevant analogy is to call a government contract a subsidy.
So I find it mildly surprising the person who used to argue the nominal difference between tax-credits and subisidies matters, is now rejecting the difference between taxes and charges, because it wouldn't be one of substance.DISCLAIMER: the author of the above written texts does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for any offence and insult; disrespect, arrogance and related forms of demeaning behaviour; discrimination based on race, gender, age, income class, body mass, living area, political voting-record, football fan-ship and musical preference; insensitivity towards material, emotional or spiritual distress; and attempted emotional or financial black-mailing, skirt-chasing or death-threats perceived by the reader of the said written texts.Comment
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So is a usage fee.Originally posted by Colon
A government contract is a trade.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
Ultima Ratio RegumComment
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Exactly. Tell Dan.DISCLAIMER: the author of the above written texts does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for any offence and insult; disrespect, arrogance and related forms of demeaning behaviour; discrimination based on race, gender, age, income class, body mass, living area, political voting-record, football fan-ship and musical preference; insensitivity towards material, emotional or spiritual distress; and attempted emotional or financial black-mailing, skirt-chasing or death-threats perceived by the reader of the said written texts.Comment
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I was pointing out that while you might deny the difference between a tax credit and a subsidy, you might also feel that there's a difference between a tax and a usage fee.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
Ultima Ratio RegumComment
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What do you think I've been arguing since yesterday?Originally posted by KrazyHorse
I was pointing out that while you might deny the difference between a tax credit and a subsidy, you might also feel that there's a difference between a tax and a usage fee.DISCLAIMER: the author of the above written texts does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for any offence and insult; disrespect, arrogance and related forms of demeaning behaviour; discrimination based on race, gender, age, income class, body mass, living area, political voting-record, football fan-ship and musical preference; insensitivity towards material, emotional or spiritual distress; and attempted emotional or financial black-mailing, skirt-chasing or death-threats perceived by the reader of the said written texts.Comment
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Originally posted by CerberusIV
Ever wondered what happens if you don't pay up?
This is from the website of the bit of the GLA that runs the scheme.
Vehicles with three or more outstanding congestion charging penalty charges may be clamped or removed by staff operating across the whole of Greater London, not just in the congestion charging zone.
The current clamp fee is £65 and the removal fee is £150. Storage in the car pound also costs £25 a day. If a vehicle is clamped or removed, then all of the outstanding penalty charges and the appropriate clamp/removal and storage fees must be paid before the release of the vehicle is authorised.
If the release fee is not paid, then the vehicle may be disposed at auction or by scrapping. The registered keeper will remain liable for all outstanding charges, including a £60 disposal fee.
Basically, if you don't pay within 28 days that's one strike. Three strikes and they come and take your car away. I can't wait to see the US Ambassador having to queue up to get his official car back (or better still Red Ken pushing the button that starts the car crusher).
I doubt they'd tow. The NYPD never towed or booted the foreign scofflaws in NYC. I don't see why they'd do it in London. There would be a serious diplomatic row if that happened. If we started doing that, almost every foreign diplomat in NYC would have to cab it.
If you look around and think everyone else is an *******, you're the *******.Comment
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Oh they will...I've seen how devious some of the boroughs can be with their ticketing...Speaking of Erith:
"It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda SmithComment
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I vote we nuke America... we're so small they'd probably miss us if they attacked.Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
We've got both kindsComment
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This is particularly rich coming from a Frenchman.Originally posted by Spiffor
Ah yes, the country of tax dodgers
“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of ManComment
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Which some are.Originally posted by KrazyHorse
The relevant analogy is to call a government contract a subsidy.Comment
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Well, we never waged war the UK because of tax concerns...Originally posted by pchang
This is particularly rich coming from a Frenchman."I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
"I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
"I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- DisComment
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Are you denying you were acting as the US's tax consultants during the War of Independence?One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.Comment
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Originally posted by Timexwatch
I doubt they'd tow. The NYPD never towed or booted the foreign scofflaws in NYC. I don't see why they'd do it in London. There would be a serious diplomatic row if that happened. If we started doing that, almost every foreign diplomat in NYC would have to cab it.
Dated Sunday, 15 September, 2002.
Emphasis mine
Last month in New York, intervention from the Secretary of State Colin Powell diffused a similar row when diplomats almost had their cars towed for parking offences.One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.Comment
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We were just showing that we can be effective in the service sectorOriginally posted by Dauphin
Are you denying you were acting as the US's tax consultants during the War of Independence?
"I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
"I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
"I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- DisComment
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