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    Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible
    By Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent

    THE hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church has published a teaching document instructing the faithful that some parts of the Bible are not actually true.

    The Catholic bishops of England, Wales and Scotland are warning their five million worshippers, as well as any others drawn to the study of scripture, that they should not expect “total accuracy” from the Bible.

    “We should not expect to find in Scripture full scientific accuracy or complete historical precision,” they say in The Gift of Scripture.

    The document is timely, coming as it does amid the rise of the religious Right, in particular in the US.

    Some Christians want a literal interpretation of the story of creation, as told in Genesis, taught alongside Darwin’s theory of evolution in schools, believing “intelligent design” to be an equally plausible theory of how the world began.

    But the first 11 chapters of Genesis, in which two different and at times conflicting stories of creation are told, are among those that this country’s Catholic bishops insist cannot be “historical”. At most, they say, they may contain “historical traces”.

    The document shows how far the Catholic Church has come since the 17th century, when Galileo was condemned as a heretic for flouting a near-universal belief in the divine inspiration of the Bible by advocating the Copernican view of the solar system. Only a century ago, Pope Pius X condemned Modernist Catholic scholars who adapted historical-critical methods of analysing ancient literature to the Bible.

    In the document, the bishops acknowledge their debt to biblical scholars. They say the Bible must be approached in the knowledge that it is “God’s word expressed in human language” and that proper acknowledgement should be given both to the word of God and its human dimensions.

    They say the Church must offer the gospel in ways “appropriate to changing times, intelligible and attractive to our contemporaries”.

    The Bible is true in passages relating to human salvation, they say, but continue: “We should not expect total accuracy from the Bible in other, secular matters.”

    They go on to condemn fundamentalism for its “intransigent intolerance” and to warn of “significant dangers” involved in a fundamentalist approach.

    “Such an approach is dangerous, for example, when people of one nation or group see in the Bible a mandate for their own superiority, and even consider themselves permitted by the Bible to use violence against others.”

    Of the notorious anti-Jewish curse in Matthew 27:25, “His blood be on us and on our children”, a passage used to justify centuries of anti-Semitism, the bishops say these and other words must never be used again as a pretext to treat Jewish people with contempt. Describing this passage as an example of dramatic exaggeration, the bishops say they have had “tragic consequences” in encouraging hatred and persecution. “The attitudes and language of first-century quarrels between Jews and Jewish Christians should never again be emulated in relations between Jews and Christians.”

    As examples of passages not to be taken literally, the bishops cite the early chapters of Genesis, comparing them with early creation legends from other cultures, especially from the ancient East. The bishops say it is clear that the primary purpose of these chapters was to provide religious teaching and that they could not be described as historical writing.

    Similarly, they refute the apocalyptic prophecies of Revelation, the last book of the Christian Bible, in which the writer describes the work of the risen Jesus, the death of the Beast and the wedding feast of Christ the Lamb.

    The bishops say: “Such symbolic language must be respected for what it is, and is not to be interpreted literally. We should not expect to discover in this book details about the end of the world, about how many will be saved and about when the end will come.”

    In their foreword to the teaching document, the two most senior Catholics of the land, Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O’Connor, Archbishop of Westminster, and Cardinal Keith O’Brien, Archbishop of St Andrew’s and Edinburgh, explain its context.

    They say people today are searching for what is worthwhile, what has real value, what can be trusted and what is really true.

    The new teaching has been issued as part of the 40th anniversary celebrations of Dei Verbum, the Second Vatican Council document explaining the place of Scripture in revelation. In the past 40 years, Catholics have learnt more than ever before to cherish the Bible. “We have rediscovered the Bible as a precious treasure, both ancient and ever new.”

    A Christian charity is sending a film about the Christmas story to every primary school in Britain after hearing of a young boy who asked his teacher why Mary and Joseph had named their baby after a swear word. The Breakout Trust raised £200,000 to make the 30-minute animated film, It’s a Boy. Steve Legg, head of the charity, said: “There are over 12 million children in the UK and only 756,000 of them go to church regularly.

    That leaves a staggering number who are probably not receiving basic Christian teaching.”

    BELIEVE IT OR NOT

    UNTRUE

    Genesis ii, 21-22

    So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept he took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh; and the rib which the Lord God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man

    Genesis iii, 16

    God said to the woman [after she was beguiled by the serpent]: “I will greatly multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children, yet your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you.”

    Matthew xxvii, 25

    The words of the crowd: “His blood be on us and on our children.”

    Revelation xix,20

    And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence had worked the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshipped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with brimstone.”


    TRUE

    Exodus iii, 14

    God reveals himself to Moses as: “I am who I am.”

    Leviticus xxvi,12

    “I will be your God, and you shall be my people.”

    Exodus xx,1-17

    The Ten Commandments

    Matthew v,7

    The Sermon on the Mount

    Mark viii,29

    Peter declares Jesus to be the Christ

    Luke i

    The Virgin Birth

    John xx,28

    Proof of bodily resurrection

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    Are you sure The Onion wasn't behind this?
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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    • #3
      This is a horrible troll.

      The Catholic Church has long said that not everything in the Bible is true.
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      • #4
        It's not nearly funny enough for the Onion. Just more of a WTF? It's a huge, positive step, IMO.

        Apocalypse: Not meant as a troll, it's a surprise to me. Then again, I haven't been a Roman Catholic in years (and even when I was it was obvious to me the Bible had lots of errors and metaphors), so I'm not on top of these things. My apologies if you thought I was being knee-jerk anti-religious.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Apocalypse
          This is a horrible troll.

          The Catholic Church has long said that not everything in the Bible is true.
          Since when?
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          • #6
            Yea.... this is pretty damn big, I'm surprized to not see much else about it.

            It looks at this point like its just some British bishops. It doesn't look like its coming from the Vatican.
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            • #7
              This has to be a joke thread.

              If not . . . . . .



              wow.
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              • #8
                It's not big news because it isn't news. For a long time they have stated that a lot of what is in the Bible isn't what exactly happened and a lot of it is just stories that we are supposed to get meaning out of. For example, the entire Book of Job. It has always been taught that it was just a story. God isn't supposed to be able to be provoked by the devil in the first place. It's just about how Job reacts to everything.

                I was kinda knee-jerk there because I read this on Fark earlier where a lot of people there believed it was new also. A lot of people there also brought up creationism whereas Catholicism has *never* accepted the view of modern creationism (the view that came from James Ussher anyway).
                "Yay Apoc!!!!!!!" - bipolarbear
                "At least there were some thoughts went into Apocalypse." - Urban Ranger
                "Apocalype was a great game." - DrSpike
                "In Apoc, I had one soldier who lasted through the entire game... was pretty cool. I like apoc for that reason, the soldiers are a bit more 'personal'." - General Ludd

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                • #9
                  They've been losing their nerves ever since they apologized for the Inquisition.

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                  • #10
                    Anyway...another example...Revelation was always considered to be a political criticism and not a guide to how the world is going to end.
                    "Yay Apoc!!!!!!!" - bipolarbear
                    "At least there were some thoughts went into Apocalypse." - Urban Ranger
                    "Apocalype was a great game." - DrSpike
                    "In Apoc, I had one soldier who lasted through the entire game... was pretty cool. I like apoc for that reason, the soldiers are a bit more 'personal'." - General Ludd

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                    • #11
                      The nuns taught us the bible was mostly myth when I was attending Catholic high school religion class in the late 70's.
                      "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
                      —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

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                      • #12
                        Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible
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                        • #13
                          AFAIK, the RCC hasn't held the bible to be literal for years.

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                          • #14
                            It seems that most of this is coming from Anglicans and Episcopalians, not the RCC.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Theben
                              It seems that most of this is coming from Anglicans and Episcopalians, not the RCC.
                              Well, it seems that the article was talking about the RCC...

                              THE hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church has published a teaching document instructing the faithful that some parts of the Bible are not actually true.
                              (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                              (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                              (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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