PC Victim William Bennett

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by molly bloom
It was also noticeable that when the City of London and Docklands were bombed by Irish terrorists, the number of motorists of Asian or Afro-Caribbean appearance or descent who were stopped by the police's 'ring of steel' rose- now forgive me for pointing this out, by Irish Republican terrorists were not renowned for utilising black or ethnic minority recruits.


There is of course the matter of jury composition too- and the way trial by media 'convicted' people such as the Broadwater Three.

My personal favourite was the Cardiff Three. Following the murder of a prostitute, the police went out looking for a lone white man with blood on his hands and shirt. They came back with three black men, and even managed to get them convicted. Briefly.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by Berzerker
Nevertheless, if we accept that crime rates are higher among impoverished people

Actually, I'd challenge that too. The fact is that nearly everyone breaks the law at points in their lives. If you concentrate police resources in impoverished areas, you find more crimes and criminals.

The crimes differ, admittedly. More benefit fraud, less capital gains tax evasion. And yet we treat benefit fraudsters far more harshly than tax evaders...

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Hang on- I'm replying to Berzerker.

Forget I mentioned tax and benefits. We all have lives to live.

[Caligastia]

Laz thinks crime rates are almost totally equal between races.

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?postid=2846146#post2846146

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Originally posted by Boris Godunov


Exactly. Someone like Bill Bennett is more than well aware of what words like that will inspire. It smacks of a calculated stunt. Ain't no such thing as bad publicity, after all, and it will get the wingnut Renfields flocking to him in a froth in defense.

Ahh, so, even if what one speaks is truthful, one should not say it in public.

Did you learn that from the commissar at your local school or did you figure it out on your own? Are you also one of those 68% of the under 30 crowd who think the 1st Amendment allows to much freedom? If so, Lenin is smiling, comrade.

How sad.

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Originally posted by Wiglaf
They are immeasurably poorer than the white population. Extrapolate from there...

Actually, in sheer numbers, there are far more poor white people then poor black people- in America. And so, there are far more white people on welfare or related government benefit programs then any other ethnic grouping in America.

And, during the Great Depression, a time when whites were 90% of America's population, 25% of white males were unemployed- with no noticeable increase in crime.

Thus, if poverty alone were an indicator of propensity to criminal behavior, whites would have committed massively more crime in say 1933 then they did in 1925 (blacks as well since they also saw a massive increase in poverty during those years) and would today comprise the majority of criminals in prison- but they do not, not even close.

On the other hand, even Jesse Jackson (not to mention Bill Cosby very recently) can see what is obvious to everyone but a face in the sand lefty.

"The worst guilt is to accept an undeserved guilt—and that is what
you have been doing all your life." (Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged)

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=19672

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Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
Speaking towards the definition of racism it most certainly is rooted in the myth that genetic differences are the root cause for apparant superior and inferior group traits.

Actually, the term "racist" and by extension, "racism" is a Marxist construct. It was originally used as a means of deflating the white working class and their supposed "oppressors" who they viewed as using racial issues to "divide and conquer".

Today, this term is used to control the debate and it's talking points. More to the point, anytime anyone says anything a lefty does not agree with, they are called a racist. Similar to calling someone a communist in the 50's. However, just like the noun "commie" lost it's power over time, so shall "racist". Especially as the debate over immigration heats up in America and Europe. The useful idiots will of course attach meaning to it, but the mainstream will not.

In any case, the whole marxist concept (erroneously) assumes that only whites can be racist- as they are "the ruling class". Which is incredibly ignorant, as the true ruling class has always viewed all of the masses equally- that which is fuel for their life style. No member of the ruling class has ever thought more highly of this group or that group- if you believe otherwise, you are deluding yourselves. A slave is a slave, after all. In all of history, no group of people were ever subjected to the miseries whites were at the hands of their fellow whites- indeed, in sheer numbers the serfdom (virtual and real) of whites by whites dwarfs all others- except possibly what the Chinese have done to one another for thousands of years.............

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Originally posted by Berzerker
As for blacks and crime rates, it is interesting how the peak homicide rate during alcohol prohibition closely matches the homicide rate at the peak of Reagan's drug war. The races changed but not the homicide rate, the common denominator is not race, but a disastrous policy. Nevertheless, if we accept that crime rates are higher among impoverished people, then blacks, arguably the most impoverished of all, should have higher crime rates inspite of institutional racism. Those rates would be even higher if not for Roe v Wade which disproportionally reduced the number of babies born into high risk situations.

Where are your tables for this- they do not need to be on the internet. I would just like to see them. I find it odd, in a way, to say the least- given that the nation was up in arms over the "St. Valentines Day Massacre". Said event being a drop in the bucket compared to a day's worth of drive bys in LA.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by Caligastia
Laz thinks crime rates are almost totally equal between races.

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...46#post2846146

And Cal can't disprove it either.

[Caligastia]

Can you prove it?

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe


Intolerant and a bigot but technically speaking a racist refers to groups as inferior/superior due to some genetic factor.

Even if your correct, which I doubt, it doesn't make his bigotry any less bad.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by Caligastia
Can you prove it?

Oooh! Oooh! Let's see! Seeing as I'm stating that it's pretty much unquantifiable, what do you think?

Read the ****ing thread, you chimp. Did you check your brains in at the front desk when you chose to become Mini-Me to Mr "I've Got A Really Big House, Puny Mortals"?

[Dr Strangelove]

So Pre-Crime did indeed go national? Wow! Now that's what I call news!

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Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp


Oooh! Oooh! Let's see! Seeing as I'm stating that it's pretty much unquantifiable, what do you think?

Read the ****ing thread, you chimp. Did you check your brains in at the front desk when you chose to become Mini-Me to Mr "I've Got A Really Big House, Puny Mortals"?

I think you use a purely strawman argument to support your thesis, which absolutely flies in the face of statistical data- said data, if it supported your view, you would absolutely accept. It's kinda like the old IQ debate, the left makes the claim that it has no meaning- until they want to get a murderer off death row by claiming his IQ is too low to prosecute him as someone who would have known that he was doing wrong. Rather like a spoilt child who demands that everyone else play the game by his rules- which he makes up as he goes so he will always win.

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Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp


And Cal can't disprove it either.

Now you sound like religionists debating the existence of "God". So I'll say to you, as you cannot prove it, it therefore does not exist, ergo, Cal is right and you are wrong. Cal has stats, you have faith- just like the religious right.