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Uhhh, that whole WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR BOTH thing?
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Here are sites from creditable news sources which back up my claim that FEMA most certainly did attempt to block the media out of New Orleans on the grounds that it was not safe to enter the city. Some reporters snuck past guards and got in the city but most were prevented and if found in the city they were removed by police.Originally posted by Patroklos
What part about live on the ground 24 converage do you not understand? You are simply wrong Oerdin, and about 125 million American TV viewers know it.
FEMA Attempts Media Black Out in New Orleans
Here is a report from the Guardian in the UK saying how the media ban existed and the courts over turned it.
CNN issued legal proceedings against the Federal Emergency Management Agency after officials said there would be "zero access" to the recovery operation.
The district court judge, Keith Ellison, issued a temporary restraining order on Friday against the so-called "zero access" policy.
Several people blogging about the media blackout and CNN's lawsuit against FEMA to end the media blackout.
News report about the media blackout.
FEMA attempts media blackout in New Orleans PDF Print E-mail
By Brendan Coyne
Sept. 9— As hurricane clean-up efforts kick into gear in New Orleans and the surrounding storm-ravaged areas, federal government officials have been taking action seemingly to prevent the news media from accurately reporting on the tragic human toll Hurricane Katrina has taken so far.
Patroklos, please be man enough to admit you were wrong and you had no idea what you were talking about.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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own3dWe the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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I'm going to bump this in order to give Patroklos a chance to respond.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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That will be kinda hard, given that Hector killed Patroklos over a thousand years ago.A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.Comment
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I never even knew what Patroklos meant.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Sorry, I had to wait for a little ban action to wear off...
This...
Does not mean this (note your article says nothing about the practical effect of any ban)...Here are sites from creditable news sources which back up my claim that FEMA most certainly did attempt to block the media out of New Orleans on the grounds that it was not safe to enter the city.
Is false.What part about live on the ground 24 converage do you not understand? You are simply wrong Oerdin, and about 125 million American TV viewers know it.
Even if FEMA tried to keep them out so what. The Government tries to keep drugs off the streets, that automatically make it so? The reality was Oerdin that there was constant twenty four hour coverage from the sea walls to the looters in the streets to Black Hawk helicopters at the Super Dome the next day.
There was no blackout, and you claim there is is the most ridiculous claim in the last week of ridiculous claims/troll threads. Quality of Quantity."The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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There wasn't any blackout that I saw. The Feds may have wished it so, but it clearly was not so.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Well, Patroklos was all about fighting the Trojan War for the Greeks, but Achilles did not want his beloved companion/cousin to fight in the war.Originally posted by Oerdin
I never even knew what Patroklos meant.
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Indeed, I saw 24/7 copverage from multiple media sources inside the city from the start. Poor Oerdin must be to poor to have Cable, TV, or Radio.Originally posted by DanS
There wasn't any blackout that I saw. The Feds may have wished it so, but it clearly was not so.Gaius Mucius Scaevola Sinistra
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Originally posted by Ted Striker
Uhhh, that whole WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR BOTH thing?
That should seriously not be a problem. Why not start with a one dollar tax on a gallon of gasoline ? You both get a lot of money and a more sensible car park.
Stop promoting ID should also save some money.
Belive me, there are lots of money out there - you just have to learn to pick it up.
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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Tax cuts.Originally posted by BlackCat
What is preventing you from doing both ?Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Originally posted by DanS
There wasn't any blackout that I saw. The Feds may have wished it so, but it clearly was not so.
For the first few days, rescue was being complimented by news services locating people and then informing the Coast Guard and other rescue services. Many lives were saved by the news teams.
One thing DanS needs to keep in mind is that the media did not make up stories out of whole cloth, but reported what they were told by officials, who are generally considered legitimate sources (as when they reported credulously the President's claims that Iraq had WMDs and was aiding al-Qaida, for example). We also need to remember that journalists are human, and that the responded to an unbelievable situation, the destruction of not one, but several American cities, a refugee crisis of a million people, 50,000 survivors piled up into insane conditions, and little governmental presence.
Except for those who will excuse Bush anything, no one could imagine that this could happen to the U.S. (and if this had happened under Clinton, all those claiming that the Feds shouldn't be held responsible would be demanding Clinton's head). Regardless of the claims of the right, most journalists are intense patriots, and were unable to believe the incredible fubar in our own country, and they got angry. And they were right to get angry. And they were right to display their anger for all to see. Just as happened when the Fed's ignored Homestead and Florida City after Andrew.
The truth is, there are no cities in th U.S. that are immune to a natural disaster. NYC and Miami could both be destroyed by hurricanes just as easily as NOLA was (and the data today seems to indicate that Katie was a Cat 3 storm when it made landfall, not a Cat 4 as originally indicated, which means that the levees should have held). Chicago could be taken out by a Yellowstone explosion. The cities of the West coast could be destroyed by eartquake, tsunami, or volcano. D.C. could be destroyed by a Las Palmas tsunami.
We form societies in order to share risk and to spread out the burden of putting things back together when nature does remind us of how little we are. Socially, we have evolved past every man for himself, every community for itself. Why have a country if we don't look out for other Americans? Why should I pay for a war against al-Qaeda when they attacked NYC and DC? They didn't attack Florida or Illinois. We do it because we have a responsibility to help our fellow Americans.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Bla, bla, bla. Did your post have anything to do with the discussion in this thread, or were you too lazy to find the $200 billion NO thread and post in that?I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Originally posted by DanS
This is a problem, because we're going to be spending $200 billionChristianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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