What has Rhode Island contributed to the world?

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
There have been times prior to the existence of Rhode Island where there existed freedom of religion.

Ok, freedom of religion in the West, after Constantine.

[lord of the mark]

George M. Cohan


You are like totally pawned.



"oh, im a yankee doodle dandy, a yankee doodle do or die ....."

[KrazyHorse]

Why am I pwn3d?

I'm defending RI against DanS's cruel snub

Plus I'd guess that the Dutch at certain points in the 16th and 17th centuries were as free about religion as was RI (thought I wouldn't bet my life on it)

[lord of the mark]

General Nathaniel Greene, perhaps the bsst general, in tactics, of the Continental Army.

If id hadnt been for Greene, the deep south might well have ended up British. Any you lucky Canucks would have had a civil war over slavery

[KrazyHorse]

No, because that war would have been fought in 1800, not in 1860

That means that the British Empire would have absolutely wrecked the **** of the slave owners.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Why am I pwn3d?

I'm defending RI against DanS's cruel snub

Plus I'd guess that the Dutch at certain points in the 16th and 17th centuries were as free about religion as was RI (thought I wouldn't bet my life on it)

Oh, missed that. The dans post.

[KrazyHorse]

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=138848

[lord of the mark]

"In June Williams arrived at the present site of Providence and, having secured land from the natives (see Canonicus), he admitted to equal rights with himself twelve "loving friends and neighbors" (several had come to him from Massachusetts since the opening of spring). It was provided that "such others as the major part of us shall admit into the same fellowship of vote with us" from time to time should become members of their commonwealth.[b[ Obedience to the majority was promised by all, but "only in civil things." In 1640 another agreement was signed by thirty-nine freemen, in which they express their determination "still to hold forth liberty of conscience." Thus a government unique in its day was created--a government that expressly provided for religious liberty and a separation between civil and ecclesiastical authority.[/b]

The colony was named Providence, due to Williams's belief that God had taken care of him and his followers and brought them to this place.

In 1637 some followers of Anne Hutchinson visited Williams to seek his guidance in moving away from Massachusetts. Like Williams, this group was in trouble with the Puritan theocrats. He advised them to purchase land on Aquidneck Island from the Native Americans. They settled in a place called Pocasset, which is now the town of Portsmouth, Rhode Island. Among them were Anne Hutchinsons's husband William, William Coddington and John Clarke.

In 1643 Williams was sent to England by his fellow citizens to secure a charter for the colony. The Puritans were then in power, and through the good offices of Sir Henry Vane a thoroughly democratic charter was readily obtained.

In 1647 the colony that had been planted on Rhode Island was united with Providence under a single government, and liberty of conscience was again proclaimed.

On May 18, 1652 Rhode Island passed the first law in North America making slavery illegal.

The area that is now Rhode Island became a safe haven for people who were persecuted for their beliefs--Baptists, Quakers, Jews, and others went there to follow their consciences in peace and safety"

Netherlands was very tolerant, esp of Jews. Not sure their attitude to Quakers. Or level of seperation of religion and state.

[lord of the mark]

"Because Church and State were closely related, religious dissension and disagreements were a threat to the union of the young republic of the Seven United Netherlands. Supporters of religious freedom and tolerance were soon accused of high treason. In order to preserve the country’s unity, Stadtholder Prince Maurice (1567-1625) took the side of the Reformed Church. This opposed him diametrically with councilor Johan van Oldenbarnevelt (1547-1619) who stuck to his political ideas and his pleading for freedom of religion in his conflict with the prince. In 1619 van Oldenbarnevelt was beheaded on charges of high treason at the ‘Binnenhof’ (Inner Court) in The Hague."

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[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
No, because that war would have been fought in 1800, not in 1860

That means that the British Empire would have absolutely wrecked the **** of the slave owners.

why 1800? OTL the sugar lords managed to hang on to slavery till 1832, when the reform act gutted their power in Commons. If UK has Canada, the deep south from the Carolinas and Georgia west to the Missippi, PLUS the sugar islands, that should make things quite interesting.

I suspect the deep South (esp with the most Whiggish elements gone to Virginia in 1783, and with quite q few UEL's from Virginia and middle colonies) may well be a voice AGAINST the 1832 Reform act.

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Ignorant Eurocom.

Does the Colussus count as a person?

[Grandpa Troll]

Dont Rhodes Scholars come from Rhode Island ?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Roger Williams should begin and end the discussion. He's a giant among the early Americans and should have a MUCH greater place in US history. The first seperation of Church and State in the "West" (and unheard of religious tolerance since the times of the Roman Republic) was in Williams' Providence Plantation.

And he was anti-slavery (as LOTM pointed out) and wanted to live in peace with the Native Americans (and even learned a good deal of the local Natives' language).

[Peter Triggs]

7. Their chickens:

http://www.the-coop.org/redsquare/redsqr3.html

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

I used to breed Rhode Island Red bantams. The eggs were delicious, but the cockerels were psychopathic and knew no fear.