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Originally posted by Sava
if San Francisco has a major earthquake and falls into the ocean, will morons want to rebuild it on the same spot?
There won't be "the same spot" left in this case. D'oh!
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Originally posted by MOBIUS
Also, seeing as hundreds of thousands of people have suddenly become unemployed overnight perhaps they could be employed in the huge public works effort of cleaning up their city to help them help themselves, earning a badly needed income and the self esteem of repairing their city...
Unlikely to happen with America's privatising, outsourcing government.
On the other hand, I don't think the death toll with be too bad.
A couple of articles on how virtually unscathed the French Quarter is. Obviously it would take a little while for the authorities to allow people back into the city, however the FQ might be up and running sooner than you may think!
If the relevant authorities had done their jobs, NoLa would merely be picking up after some moderate hurricane damage - not be 80% drowned...
This would have happened regardless. All the sections of the levies that broke were in their completed state, the cut funds people's heads are spinning about were not earmarked to add any protection that would have mattered.
The Army Corps or Engineers and the New Orleans own engineeres have been screaming this for a week, though no one seems to notice.
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Yes NO will recover. Refineries, petrochemical plants, grain elevators (mainly upriver of the center city) will be coming online in weeks.
It will be a different city however. I suspect many of the lowest lying residential sections will be abandoned, as DanS says. Some companies not connected to the port or the tourist industry will relocate permanently. So NO may end up a smaller city, and shaped differently. And more attention will be paid to barrier islands, wetlands, etc.
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Unlikely to happen with America's privatising, outsourcing government.
On the other hand, I don't think the death toll with be too bad.
Most of the reconstruction will be done by private firms. They will need labor.
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This NO shouldn't be rebuilt in the same location stuff is hilarious. It's not like you just throw together a city like that overnight. There's way too much infrastructure still intact (along with the stuff that will obviously need to be repaired/replaced) to just walk away from it and go "oh well, let's start the whole thing over again somewhere else".
It will undoubtably be a changed city. It will also undoubtably remain exactly where it is.
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They should do like the Venetians, and just keep building upwards as the city sinks.
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I'm going to stop trolling for a second a make a serious post.
I basically agree with what some of what Dennis Hastert said.
The decision to rebuild New Orleans or the process of doing so should be done in a sensible way. The problem leading up to the hurricane was that there wasn't adequate precautions taken to protect the city. And really, you can't fault any single politician for that. It's not Mayor Nagin's fault. It's not Governor Blanco's fault. It's not Bush's fault. There were evacuation plans, but there wasn't the personel and they weren't trained properly and the resources weren't in place to execute it. Also, on the federal level, the levees were neglected. Not totally Bush's fault. But he does deserve some of the blame. He signs off on everything. And like I said before, he touted that massive pork-laiden highway bill and claimed we were improving our infrastructure, but that was a bunch of bull****.
As for rebuilding, well, it's not just about the city itself. You need to look at the surrounding area. The whole area is overdeveloped which has left New Orleans vulnerable to flooding. There's swampland that has been drained that was vital. I think New Orleans is an important city, both economically and culturally (although I must admit, I somewhat fail to see the "culture" in drunken boob flashing, but whatever), but we shouldn't just be stubborn and say "WE MUST REBUILD UHHHHHHHHH".
You must be pragmatic about things. To just automatically say WE MUST REBUILD without objectively looking at the situation is stupid. People are caught up in the emotion of the whole tragedy and aren't thinking clearly. And it's absolutely ridiculous to be spending billions of dollars based upon knee-jerk jingoistic reactions to national tragedies.
Should New Orleans be rebuilt? Probably yes, in some fashion. But the experts need to look at things. And we need to be prepared for the next disaster.
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