CanPol: Let's Get Ready to Ruuuumble!

[Asher]

an untrained monkey could run this province.

An he does.

[Omni Rex Draconis]

At least you got a monkey.

We got an evil reptilian kitten-eater from another planet.

[Asher]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20050905.wgasss0905/BNStory/National/

Montreal — Almost half of Canadians wanted to see their petroleum resources and their gas companies nationalized as fuel prices hit record levels, a new poll suggests.

The Leger Marketing telephone survey of 1,500 people was conducted between Aug. 24 and Aug. 31, the bulk being done before the devastating effects of hurricane Katrina were felt.

Gas prices have jumped around 25 cents a litre since the storm that battered the U.S. Gulf Coast.

On Monday, for example, prices in Montreal and Halifax averaged $1.38 a litre but the regulated price in St. John's, Nfld., was $1.48. In Toronto, prices stood at about $1.35 but were also seen at around $1.22.

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Western drivers tanked up for between $1.08 to $1.13 in Edmonton and between $1.07 to $1.14 in Calgary.

In the Leger poll, which was provided to The Canadian Press, 49 per cent of respondents wanted petroleum resources nationalized while 43 per cent said they would like to see the same fate for gas companies.

Quebeckers were the strongest supporters of resource nationalization at 67 per cent, followed by residents of the Atlantic provinces at 53 per cent, Ontarians at 45 per cent and British Columbia at 42 per cent.

Forty per cent of respondents on the Prairies and 36 per cent of Albertans were in favour. Among those opposed, Albertans led the way at 49 per cent followed by British Columbians at 39 per cent.

Quebec led in support for nationalization of oil companies, with 61 per cent in favour, followed by the Atlantic provinces (46 per cent). Alberta was most opposed at 59 per cent, followed by the Prairies (49 per cent), B.C. 46 per cent and Ontario, 41 per cent.

Most of the respondents — 79 per cent — suggested they would like to see taxes on gasoline cut, although federal and provincial governments have made it clear that is unlikely.

Seventy-six per cent of respondents indicated they would like the government to intervene after recent gas hikes preceding Katrina. Fifty-four per cent suggested they would like the government to fix the pump price.

Twenty-six per cent of respondents blamed the gas companies for pre-Katrina price spikes followed by 18 per cent pointing the finger at oil-producing countries.

However, 63 per cent of respondents said pre-Katrina gas price hikes had not affected their fuel consumption. Twenty-five per cent said they were using less gas.

Results of the poll are considered accurate within plus or minus 2.6 percentage points 19 times out of 20.

Katrina cut a swath of destruction along the Gulf Coast more than a week ago, shutting down nine Gulf Coast refineries. It disrupted gasoline pipelines to the Midwest and East and stopped 90 per cent of the oil production in the Gulf of Mexico.

The Gulf is responsible for around 30 per cent of U.S. crude production and one quarter of its gas. A large portion of U.S. oil imports also arrive at Gulf Coast ports. Prices at the pump soared and continued to climb.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Asher
He's been moving a bit right as I recall, he used to be this leftie from Newfoundland.

I don't think his political stance has moved much since his cDn days.

[Wezil]

Originally posted by Omni Rex Draconis
At least you got a monkey.

We got an evil reptilian kitten-eater from another planet.

Nice.

NYE - I wouldn't worry to much about McGuinty as he has far bigger problems than interprovincial bickering. He needs to keep a promise or two before his next campaign (232 promises in last campaign - well on his way to breaking almost all of them).

I would worry more about Martin & Co. While the Federal coffers are doing fine with excess taxation, you can never have enough cash to throw at the right constituents during an election. They say they have no designs on Alberta oil $$ but they said lots of things didn't they? Besides, how many seats would they lose in Alberta? 1?

Keep two spots open, I'd join ORD in a western migration if Alberta were to separate.

[embalmer42]

Originally posted by Wezil



Keep two spots open, I'd join ORD in a western migration if Alberta were to separate.

Make that three.

[mrmitchell]

Dear Alberta: When you stumble into a lot of money, it's not fair to keep it for yourself. You can't possibly use all of it. Do the right thing and share.

If the numbers quoted in this thread are accurate, which considering oil I have no reason to doubt, it means Alberta will/is undergoing a revolutionary explosion of wealth...

Sure, reap some benefits yourself, but karma, if you don't believe in anything else, will come back to bite you in the ass if you hog all your gains.

What are you doing complaining about your province government paying out to other provinces anyway? The high paying jobs should be benefit to your economy enough.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by embalmer42


Make that three.

Make that 4

Except when I head to Alberta it'll be to help grab it back...

[Asher]

Originally posted by mrmitchell
Dear Alberta: When you stumble into a lot of money, it's not fair to keep it for yourself. You can't possibly use all of it. Do the right thing and share.

If the numbers quoted in this thread are accurate, which considering oil I have no reason to doubt, it means Alberta will/is undergoing a revolutionary explosion of wealth...

Sure, reap some benefits yourself, but karma, if you don't believe in anything else, will come back to bite you in the ass if you hog all your gains.

What are you doing complaining about your province government paying out to other provinces anyway? The high paying jobs should be benefit to your economy enough.

Why not give it away to developing nations like Afghanistan instead of Ontario?

We're big on this sharing thing, but for some reason people are picky about who it's shared with.

[Voltaire]

Originally posted by mrmitchell
What are you doing complaining about your province government paying out to other provinces anyway?

Because Albertans think that they are somehow deserving of the oil wealth because they happen to be fortunate enough to be living over it.

[mrmitchell]

Hell. 40% royalties on 1.6 trillion barrels of oil - you should be signing blank checks to EVERYONE.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Voltaire
Because Albertans think that they are somehow deserving of the oil wealth because they happen to be fortunate enough to be living over it.

Eh, that's pretty much the operating principle for everything else.

[Voltaire]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Eh, that's pretty much the operating principle for everything else.

Fortunately Canada still has a military, which is mainly composed of those from the Maritimes, just in case Alberta tries anything funny, like secession. We could also get the Chinese in on the deal, they’re against secession too.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Voltaire
Because Albertans think that they are somehow deserving of the oil wealth because they happen to be fortunate enough to be living over it.

I would be living in sunny California again if it wasn't for this oil.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Voltaire
Fortunately Canada still has a military, which is mainly composed of those from the Maritimes, just in case Alberta tries anything funny, like secession. We could also get the Chinese in on the deal, they’re against secession too.

Much of the army and air force is from Alberta.

Maritimes is big on the Navy...and what good is that with Alberta.

Alberta could also bribe the military to make them go home.