Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

So how did the destruction of New Orleans happen?

Collapse
X
Collapse
 
  • Page of 33
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
Previous 1 8 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 28 33 template Next
  • #256
    Originally posted by DanS
    Nope. Not joking at all. FEMA's relying on maps, not their knowledge. You probably have thousands of bureaucrats in FEMA now loading maps.google.com and using Google Earth, just like CNN is using.

    Your mind has permission to now be blown.
    Given that in 2000, FEMA's own strategic document identified NO as one of the top three risks for a disaster in the US it seems to me that they sould have used that time to make detailed plans and preparations, including doing joint planning with state and local authorities. Had they done so, they would not only have known about the Convention Centre, but also been able to provide help more promptly and saved perhaps hundreds of lives. But maybe that's just me.
    Tecumseh's Village, Home of Fine Civilization Scenarios

    www.tecumseh.150m.com

    Comment

    • #257
      Originally posted by Patroklos
      They get to sit in front of their comuter orgasiming all over themselves with each Bush bash.
      That would be both exausting and messy.
      Tecumseh's Village, Home of Fine Civilization Scenarios

      www.tecumseh.150m.com

      Comment

      • #258
        Honest mistake? Why would anyone assume they are the same building? That is just plain STUPID. I'm certainly nonlocal, but I never thought they were the same building.
        Attached Files
        "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
        "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

        Comment

        • #259
          You must be a great guy to discuss football scores with on Monday.
          "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

          Comment

          • #260
            FEMA is now saying that the convention center was not a planned evacuation center and that people spontaneously started showing up there of Wednesday. I don't know the accuracy of that one way or the other.
            "In the beginning was the Word. Then came the ******* word processor." -Dan Simmons, Hyperion

            Comment

            • #261
              I don't think I would make that mistake either, BUT if you show up and the locals are shouting Super Dome and nothing else, if I were FEMA thats where I would flood my initial responders as well.

              Note that they did find out about the convetion center, and DID send help immediatly thereafter.

              I can't see why a state shattering hurricane might cause confusion and chaos, I really can't.
              "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

              Comment

              • #262
                Honest mistake? Why would anyone assume they are the same building? That is just plain STUPID. I'm certainly nonlocal, but I never thought they were the same building.
                That map's a little unfair, considering that FEMA probably is using street maps with a much larger scale.

                They probably discovered maps.google.com and Google Earth on Thursday while watching CNN use it...

                People do make mistakes like this all the time, however. These people aren't locals! Hammer that into your head. That's why we don't entrust FEMA with the first 3 or 4 days of a crisis. Gen. Honore has acquitted himself fairly well with the federal military response, and it's no coincidence that he's a local.
                Last edited by DanS; September 4, 2005, 15:41.
                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

                Comment

                • #263
                  I don't care if they aren't locals, Dan!

                  I live in a city that has several large sports arenas, and a Convention Center. They aren't the same thing!

                  You don't have to be from New Orleans to know that!
                  "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                  "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

                  Comment

                  • #264
                    Convention centers and arenas are often very near each other. The convention center in DC is two blocks from the MCI Center. If the MCI Center were overflowing with 25,000 people and convention center were overflowing with 25,000, I would not expect an outsider to be able to distinguish between them, because it would be the same mass of humanity.

                    I think we've beaten this particular angle to death. As Patrokolos said, the mistake probably lead to at most one day of delay on the evacuation of the convention center.
                    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

                    Comment

                    • #265
                      I'm sorry Dan, but that is one of the lamer excuses I've heard this week, and that's really quite a remarkable achievement.
                      "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                      "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

                      Comment

                      • #266
                        I didn't mean to excuse. Only explain in the face of incredulity.
                        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

                        Comment

                        • #267
                          If that is a true explanation, I can't think of a better reason to fire everyone, from the city level all the way on up to "Brownie" and Chertoff.
                          "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                          "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

                          Comment

                          • #268
                            Frankly, I'm with DanS and Patroklos on this one. If they didn't hear anything about the Convention Center, there's no reason for them to immediately rush people there to help.

                            Tragic, yes. But only a symptom of the greater cluster**** that's been this rescue operation.

                            And yes, whoever was giving them the information? That person's a douche, and has many lives to answer for on his or her pitiful soul.
                            B♭3

                            Comment

                            • #269
                              And quit DanSing me!
                              "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                              "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

                              Comment

                              • #270
                                Fire them all, I say. You have to make examples of people. But I wonder whether you'll get any better people as an alternative.
                                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

                                Comment

                                Previous 1 8 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 28 33 template Next
                                Working...
                                X