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This will be Bush's legacy. Not 9/11, not Afganistan, not Iraq. The total ****-up of Katrina. He should just resign.
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Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree... -
Originally posted by Guynemer
Thanks, Che.
"In the beginning was the Word. Then came the ******* word processor." -Dan Simmons, HyperionComment
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I am surprised and saddened at the amount of opinion and rumors that were reported as fact by the media. CNN was especially bad, with its hysterical reporters.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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I'm surprised and saddened that conservatives can even show their faces, let alone actually try and stand up for that supreme idiot, after the disaster their policies have caused.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Is that the new "phtt" smilie that isn't working yet?Originally posted by Koyaanisqatsi
Thanks to you as well, Koya. We x-posted."My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
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"In the beginning was the Word. Then came the ******* word processor." -Dan Simmons, HyperionComment
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One thing that might be helpful in making sense of this is that New Orleans was full of fatalists and corrupt to the core. That was part of its charm, because it was different than the rest of antiseptic America. But this system is weak under stress.Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
I'm more than a little surprised the disaster relief isn't better organised - the US used to be the best at it.
Is this what comes of political apathy and tax cuts which lead to essential services being under resourced?
In the US, the people in charge during crises are the locals. For instance, the person in charge on 9/11 in New York was the mayor of New York. Not the Feds. The measure of a local society is taken during these times. When a mayor orders his subordinates to do something, will it get done? In a corrupt system, it will not.
From what I can tell, the mayor of New Orleans was an earnest outsider from the black management class who was brought in by the locals to clean up the system. But he's only been in office for a short time. It breaks my heart to see the picture on Drudge of the New Orleans city school buses lying under water, unused. Did he order somebody to arrange the evacuation of the poor and it didn't get done? Did he not order it because he wasn't getting good information about his assets? Were they abandoned because the mayor thought nobody would take New Orleans' poor, once he got them all on buses?
As somebody from a city that was in the same situation 15 years ago, I don't feel that it's fair to blame the mayor wholly. It took our mayor, who was a black management class outsider brought in with the same thought (a real incorruptible beancounter, god bless him), years to make his impact felt.Last edited by DanS; September 4, 2005, 14:15.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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One rather disturbing trend I've noticed is that it seems that people who get on CNN/other news shows are the ones who have their family rescued. Obviously not exclusively, but there have been several cases where people show up on CNN saying that their family is trapped at this place or that, have been for days, they've been telling every official they can find to send help, then miraculously within the next 24 hours a Coast Guard chopper appears overhead and people are evacuated. It just happened again...last night a woman said her family was trapped in a certain Asian Catholic church, and now there's video of people being taken out of that same church (though the announcers didn't mention it was the same one.)
That being said, the one really amazing performance I've seen in all of this is from the Coast Guard. They've consistently been doing amazing work, and have been since the moment they could get their choppers back in the air."In the beginning was the Word. Then came the ******* word processor." -Dan Simmons, HyperionComment
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Bull****!Originally posted by Patroklos
It really makes me sick how far you an MOBIUS (I expect it from him) will go for political profit.
Evidently your reading comprehension is out of whack (we all know you can't even spell the names of ships in your own navy!
) because you will have noticed that much of my criticism has rounded on people other than Bush or the Republicans - but no, you're so wrapped up in sacrificing your credibility in these outrageous attempts to protect your beloved leader...
As for what makes me sick, it's people like you who couldn't give a **** about the plight of thousands of people in the most dreadful of circumstances (is it because they are overwhelmingly black that you don't care?) - who jokes about rescue operations being suspended so some dumbass can swan in telling everyone how NO is going to be better than it was before in the future...
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How does MOBIUS (or anyone else for that matter) "profit" by attacking Bush?
just curious...To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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Koy: Another group that seems relatively on top of things is the New Orleans fire department. Compare them with New Orleans police department, which saw all of the desertions.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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I think the media, though certainly far from perfect, was one of the few shining things in this entire **** up. The fact that the media had to tell FEMA about 25,000 people that they had missed is very telling. As well as the ability of the media to get into New Orleans when the government did such a ****ty job if getting in.Originally posted by DanS
I am surprised and saddened at the amount of opinion and rumors that were reported as fact by the media. CNN was especially bad, with its hysterical reporters."I read a book twice as fast as anybody else. First, I read the beginning, and then I read the ending, and then I start in the middle and read toward whatever end I like best." - Gracie AllenComment
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Why wasn't the mayor telling FEMA about the 25,000 people? This wasn't FEMA's operation at that time. As you can see, FEMA only gets its ass in gear on day 4 or so.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Why didn't FEMA ask?
Two can play this silly little game DanS.
To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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Why couldn't FEMA watch tv?Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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