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  • #31
    Originally posted by BeBro
    PWNED.
    That was my point

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    • #32
      Originally posted by laurentius
      These competitions are childish at most. Pop culture is such a vague and artificial concept that its nothing to be worked out about.
      I find them fun. The literary ones made me think of a number of authors id like to read, and got me reading literature again (a short story by Bradbury from a lit anthology most recently - and im intending to read Cannery Row). It sure beats most of the pointless political bashing.
      "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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      • #33
        USA:

        Jackson Pollock
        Willem de Kooning
        Marcel Duchamp
        Jasper Johns
        Arshile Gorky
        Roy Lichtenstein
        Andy Warhol
        David Hockney
        Philip Guston
        Roberto Matta
        Mark Rothko

        attached painting: The Moon Woman by Jackson Pollock
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        "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
        —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

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        • #34
          Europe:

          Salvador Dali
          Pablo Picasso
          Jean Dubuffet
          Max Ernst
          Francis Bacon
          Lucian Freud
          Frank Auerbach
          Max Beckman
          Stanley Spencer
          Henry Moore
          Andre Masson
          Joan Miro
          Marc Chagall
          Henri Matisse

          A few of these Europeans were past their prime.

          attached painting: 3 Portraits of Lucian Freud by Francis Bacon
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          "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
          —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

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          • #35
            Thanks for the listings MosesPresley. LOTM as you can see both continents had fantastic artists at the time. Its impossible and unfruitful to compare them in terms of who was better than the other or the greatest of them all. Its just pointless. This isnt football match.
            Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

            - Paul Valery

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            • #36
              Willem de Kooning: Excavation 1950
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              "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
              —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

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              • #37
                Lucian Freud: Reflection
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                "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
                —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by laurentius
                  Thanks for the listings MosesPresley. LOTM as you can see both continents had fantastic artists at the time. Its impossible and unfruitful to compare them in terms of who was better than the other or the greatest of them all. Its just pointless. This isnt football match.
                  arent we grouchy. Thanks all for the pics. But this thread really just fell apart, with excess of grouchiness. The lit threads, we actually had some fun with, and we all learned something as well. Some folks got into the spirit of it - which included both the IRONY of a literary rumble, as well as actually exploring the comparison. Obviously you cant get to 28 points on one side, 27 points the other. You CAN get a broad sense of how they stack up. Which in the Brit vs French rumble was actually quite illuminating, and I think corrected some misconceptions all around.
                  "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                  • #39
                    dp
                    "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
                    —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

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                    • #40
                      Pollock shoots .... HE SCORES!

                      Blue Poles, this is my favorite Pollock painting.
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                      "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
                      —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

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                      • #41
                        I raise you Salvador Dali:

                        Speaking of Erith:

                        "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                        • #42
                          I'll see your Persistance of Mammaries and raise you a Lichtenstein.

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                          "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
                          —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

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                          • #43
                            Please excuse me, but that one's just horrible.

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                            • #44


                              Speaking of Erith:

                              "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Winston
                                Please excuse me, but that one's just horrible.


                                You're right and it's a fake. The real Lichtenstein is hanging on the wall behind the boy.
                                "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
                                —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

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