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  • #61
    What's the ETA for it to hit?
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    • #62
      Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
      May I point out that New Orleans is the United State's largest port? If the port of New Orleans is severely damaged it will affect the entire economy.
      LA and Long Beach carry the most volume, but the loss of that port is definitley a huge blow. On top of that, the current energy crisis is only going to get worse:

      U.S. energy companies said U.S. Gulf of Mexico crude oil output was cut by more than one-third on Saturday because of the threatening storm, Reuters reported.

      The Gulf of Mexico is home to roughly a quarter of U.S. domestic oil and gas output, with a capacity to produce about 1.5 million barrels per day of crude and 12.3 billion cubic feet per day of gas. (Full story)

      Many oil platforms and rigs in the Gulf of Mexico have been evacuated. ((Watch the video of drilling crews securing rigs and seeking safety.)
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      • #63
        Hurricane Katrina 4th Strongest Atlantic Hurricane
        8/28/2005 8:16 p.m. ET

        Hurricane Katrina is now a Category 5 hurricane -- top winds are 160 mph. The pressure has dropped as low as 904 mb. This pressure reading is the 4th lowest on record in the Atlantic Basin.
        **********************************

        Early in the morning, Monday, is all I'm seeing.
        How early is early?
        Moving at 7 mph, but can't see how far out it's located currently.



        Seen from the shores of Madeira Beach, the sun sets behind the edge of powerful Hurricane Katrina

        Today’s and tonight’s Ottawa, Ontario weather forecast, weather conditions and Doppler radar from The Weather Channel and Weather.com
        Last edited by SlowwHand; August 28, 2005, 20:44.
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        • #64
          More satellite imagery:

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          • #65
            Jefferson County (on the Southern tip of Louisiana) is empty except for 7 die-hards who refused to leave. The county's emergency ops director was essentially referring to them in the past tense on the news report...
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            • #66
              Any news on how the evacuation is proceeding?
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              • #67
                Actually it's there, in looking at that satellite from Jonny.
                Maybe not to New Orleans, and maybe not the worst, but it's there.
                Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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                He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                • #68
                  Keep in mind that that satellite loop is about 1 hour behind current time...

                  Let's hope that things don't look much different than they do now when this thing is over:

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by ixnay
                    HURRICANE KATRINA
                    A MOST POWERFUL HURRICANE WITH UNPRECEDENTED
                    STRENGTH...RIVALING THE INTENSITY OF HURRICANE CAMILLE OF 1969.

                    MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. AT
                    LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL
                    FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY
                    DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.

                    THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL.
                    PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD
                    FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE
                    BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME
                    WALL AND ROOF FAILURE.

                    HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A
                    FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE.
                    ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.

                    AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH
                    AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY
                    VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE
                    ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE
                    WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.

                    POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN
                    AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING
                    INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.

                    THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY
                    THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW
                    CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BE
                    KILLED.

                    AN INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR
                    HURRICANE FORCE...OR FREQUENT GUSTS AT OR ABOVE HURRICANE FORCE...ARE
                    CERTAIN WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS.

                    ONCE TROPICAL STORM AND HURRICANE FORCE WINDS ONSET...DO NOT VENTURE
                    OUTSIDE!

                    Sounds like fun!
                    Where did you find that? Link?
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                    • #70
                      I find it ironic that people are saying things like "god help them", considering stuff like this is usually called an 'Act of god'...

                      Anyone ever seen The Man Who Sued god? Great movie about the hypocrisy of believing in god...

                      All we can do is hope that somehow the storm loses a bit of strength and changes course a bit through the least populated area in its path...
                      Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by OzzyKP


                        Where did you find that? Link?
                        The national weather service, actually

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                        • #72
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                          • #73
                            Last report I heard said 10,000 will be braving it out at the Superdome.
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                            • #74
                              The live feeds coming out of New Orleans on CNN are amazing.

                              Why the hell are there still cars driving INTO the city?
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                              • #75
                                From the AP:

                                When Hurricane Katrina hits New Orleans on Monday, it could turn one of America's most charming cities into a vast cesspool tainted with toxic chemicals, human waste and even coffins released by floodwaters from the city's legendary cemeteries.

                                Experts have warned for years that the levees and pumps that usually keep New Orleans dry have no chance against a direct hit by a Category 5 storm.

                                That's exactly what Katrina was as it churned toward the city. With top winds of 165 mph and the power to lift sea level by as much as 28 feet above normal, the storm threatened an environmental disaster of biblical proportions, one that could leave more than 1 million people homeless.

                                "All indications are that this is absolutely worst-case scenario," Ivor van Heerden, deputy director of the Louisiana State University Hurricane Center, said Sunday afternoon.

                                The center's latest computer simulations indicate that by Tuesday, vast swaths of New Orleans could be under water up to 30 feet deep. In the French Quarter, the water could reach 20 feet, easily submerging the district's iconic cast-iron balconies and bars.

                                Estimates predict that 60 percent to 80 percent of the city's houses will be destroyed by wind. With the flood damage, most of the people who live in and around New Orleans could be homeless.

                                "We're talking about in essence having _ in the continental United States _ having a refugee camp of a million people," van Heerden said.


                                Aside from Hurricane Andrew, which struck Miami in 1992, forecasters have no experience with Category 5 hurricanes hitting densely populated areas.

                                "Hurricanes rarely sustain such extreme winds for much time. However we see no obvious large-scale effects to cause a substantial weakening the system and it is expected that the hurricane will be of Category 4 or 5 intensity when it reaches the coast," National Hurricane Center meteorologist Richard Pasch said.

                                As they raced to put meteorological instruments in Katrina's path Sunday, wind engineers had little idea what their equipment would record.

                                "We haven't seen something this big since we started the program," said Kurt Gurley, a University of Florida engineering professor. He works for the Florida Coastal Monitoring Program, which is in its seventh year of making detailed measurements of hurricane wind conditions using a set of mobile weather stations.

                                Experts have warned about New Orleans' vulnerability for years, chiefly because Louisiana has lost more than a million acres of coastal wetlands in the past seven decades. The vast patchwork of swamps and bayous south of the city serves as a buffer, partially absorbing the surge of water that a hurricane pushes ashore.

                                Experts have also warned that the ring of high levees around New Orleans, designed to protect the city from floodwaters coming down the Mississippi, will only make things worse in a powerful hurricane. Katrina is expected to push a 28-foot storm surge against the levees. Even if they hold, water will pour over their tops and begin filling the city as if it were a sinking canoe.

                                After the storm passes, the water will have nowhere to go.

                                In a few days, van Heerden predicts, emergency management officials are going to be wondering how to handle a giant stagnant pond contaminated with building debris, coffins, sewage and other hazardous materials.

                                "We're talking about an incredible environmental disaster," van Heerden said.

                                He puts much of the blame for New Orleans' dire situation on the very levee system that is designed to protect southern Louisiana from Mississippi River floods.

                                Before the levees were built, the river would top its banks during floods and wash through a maze of bayous and swamps, dropping fine- grained silt that nourished plants and kept the land just above sea level.

                                The levees "have literally starved our wetlands to death" by directing all of that precious silt out into the Gulf of Mexico, van Heerden said.

                                It has been 40 years since New Orleans faced a hurricane even comparable to Katrina. In 1965, Hurricane Betsy, a Category 3 storm, submerged some parts of the city to a depth of seven feet.

                                Since then, the Big Easy has had nothing but near misses. In 1998, Hurricane Georges headed straight for New Orleans, then swerved at the last minute to strike Mississippi and Alabama. Hurricane Lili blew herself out at the mouth of the Mississippi in 2002. And last year's Hurricane Ivan obligingly curved to the east as it came ashore, barely grazing a grateful city.
                                A guy on CNN, Ivor Van Heerden, of the LSU Public Health Research Center, said this could be USA's Tsunami...
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