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  • #46
    Do you find this statement shocking?
    Not at all. It's much easier to bring down a government of a specific country than it is to locate one man in hiding anywhere in the world.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Ted Striker
      If we really wanted to get him, we would have him.

      There's more to these things than just Marines, there's all sorts of intelligence assets, not to mention the administrative overhead to manage the whole thing.

      Most of those are currently occupied with the larger force in Iraq, and the Afghanistan operation has become a sideshow.

      This is shown as an example with the Army group that was tasked with finding both Saddam and Bin Laden, they are run by the exact same administrative group.

      The same group is probably chasing down Al Queda in Iraq and whatever other insurgent of the week.

      And on top of that there is the whole billion dollars a week being wasted in Iraq thing.
      It's very easy to hide from people looking for you. Eric Rudolph did it for many years. Yes he was eventually caught, but it took many, many years.

      And he did it in our own country which is well known to the FBI. And while there are wilderness areas on the east coast, much of it is privately owned (compared to the southwest and northwest). These areas have a significantly higher population than ares in Afghanistan I'm sure.

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      • #48
        For the record, the World population is roughly 6 billion, not 3 billion. Then someone wrote that Hitler was at war with the whole World, but the countries that would accept Bin Laden as a welcome immigrant is easily countable on one hand.

        If you want to know where he is, you should look in my basement.
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        • #49
          Somehow I think that us intelligence are capable of administering more than one operation at a time.

          An alternative to the us marines would of course be some undercover operation, but I think that Monaco would find it easier to get a mole into the white house than us to get just a few into the areas where obl might be.
          With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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          • #50
            For the record, the World population is roughly 6 billion, not 3 billion.


            Yes, but only 3 of those 6 billion are males.

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            • #51
              Or maybe he's hiding in Texas, the last place they would look. There WAS an airline in Texas called Air Bin Laden after all.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                For the record, the World population is roughly 6 billion, not 3 billion.


                Yes, but only 3 of those 6 billion are males.
                Damn you - now we don't get any more coherent postings from Ted.
                With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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                • #53
                  Well Bin Laden could be hiding disguised as a woman, so we can't rule out anyone in a Burka for instance.

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                  • #54
                    If the US went after Osama like it went after Japan and Germany it might have achieved better results.

                    Course I wasn't necessarily opposed to mass bombing the entire middle east and killing off over 50% of the local population while utilizing atomic/nuclear bombs, but then I wasn't making the calls on that.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by BlackCat
                      Somehow I think that us intelligence are capable of administering more than one operation at a time.

                      An alternative to the us marines would of course be some undercover operation, but I think that Monaco would find it easier to get a mole into the white house than us to get just a few into the areas where obl might be.

                      So what? I can work two jobs too but not as good as if I were only doing one.

                      That's just common sense.

                      You're making the exact same mistake our own President makes, and that's thinking of everything in terms of a conventional military solution.

                      It's the behind the scenes stuff which is being squandered and mismanaged.
                      We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by GhengisFarb
                        If the US went after Osama like it went after Japan and Germany it might have achieved better results.

                        Course I wasn't necessarily opposed to mass bombing the entire middle east and killing off over 50% of the local population while utilizing atomic/nuclear bombs, but then I wasn't making the calls on that.
                        BS.

                        You can't hit a single person with a nuke or for that matter conventional bombing if you don't know where he is.

                        Your other claim that some country had their population nuked to 50 % is new to me - where did that happen ?
                        With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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                        • #57
                          He's not saying it happened, he's saying he wouldn't have opposed it happening.
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Ted Striker



                            So what? I can work two jobs too but not as good as if I were only doing one.

                            That's just common sense.

                            You're making the exact same mistake our own President makes, and that's thinking of everything in terms of a conventional military solution.

                            It's the behind the scenes stuff which is being squandered and mismanaged.
                            If the us intelligence and army isn't capabable to do more than one thing at a time, then I'll suggest that you let some heads roll and hire people that can administer more than one thing at a time. It's common practise in the rest of the world.

                            About other than military solutions - well you haven't read all of the thread

                            You are right in that lousy top management can mess up a lot, but even perfect management can't improve geographical and logistical problems.

                            Glad to see that Kuci's mention of those 3 bill women out there didn't disturb you
                            With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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                            • #59
                              nukes

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by DRoseDARs
                                He's not saying it happened, he's saying he wouldn't have opposed it happening.


                                I read a lot of irony in his statement.
                                With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                                Steven Weinberg

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