45% of Americans are Morons

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Abiogenisis is not only highly plausible, but scientists have been getting pretty close to achieving it in the laboratory.

True, but BK is being dishonest yet again by claiming that abiogenesis is a "necessary plank" of evolution. It isn't, as the ToE stood for quite some time before abiogenesis was even suggested. ToE explains how life changed once it got started, not its origins.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Dauphin
Of course things can be true and non-verifiable, but any such theory is meaningless without reference to verifiables.

I disagree. Verifying your theory is nice, but when there are no verifiables you still have to make a choice. That's human nature.

The scientific method gives a confidence in the theory as it requests quantifiable, measurable and predictated results that can be repeated and compared to to the theory. Where the theory continually measures up it gains credibility, and where it fails the theory is refined or replaced.

My point is that something is either a natural law or a historical fact or it is not. If it is neither then individuals will come to different reasonable conclusions.

It is entirely possible the theory of evolution is wrong, the scientific method does not say that the theory of evolution is right. It just says that on the strong balance of probability, it is.

I don't agree. I don't think there is any probable evidence at all. Have you done some calculations? How did you calculate the probability?

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
The theory of evolution has stood up to all manner of scrutiny. The only thing that has happened to it is it has been refined in light of our knowledge of heredity and genetics. The original theory was correct, just incomplete, and at the time of Darwin, couldn't possibly be complete...

The Theory of Evolution hasn't stood up to any scrutiny because there was never any evidence of it. No one has ever offered any proof that man evolved from another species.

[Kuciwalker]

Kid, you're completely clueless. Stop pwning yourself, it's not even funny.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Az

And you have faith in this statement.

Not blind faith, or almost blind faith. You could say that I "believe this to be the truth", but that's true of any opinion held by anyone ever. I am perfectly willing to reconsider if you come up with major flows in this, or come up with something better.

Blind faith means closing your eyes to facts. Who has closed their eyes, and to what facts?

[MOBIUS]

Originally posted by Kidicious
The Theory of Evolution hasn't stood up to any scrutiny because there was never any evidence of it. No one has ever offered any proof that man evolved from another species.

You know, every know and again I actually agree with Kuciwalker...

How could you type that with a straight face dude?

[Kuciwalker]

I feel ill.

[Kuciwalker]

MOBIUS or Kid, MOBIUS or Kid, blech.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Kidicious


The Theory of Evolution hasn't stood up to any scrutiny because there was never any evidence of it. No one has ever offered any proof that man evolved from another species.

o_O

[MosesPresley]

Originally posted by Kidicious


The Theory of Evolution hasn't stood up to any scrutiny because there was never any evidence of it. No one has ever offered any proof that man evolved from another species.

How do you explain mutations?

[MosesPresley]

Also how do you explain the breeding of new breeds of dogs and other animals?

[MOBIUS]

God did it!

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by MosesPresley


How do you explain mutations?

I imagine the same way that you do. The difference is that I know that it's not proof that humans evolved from another species.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
So? In this case making more money is consistent with helping the environment.

Flooding the fields with pesticides does not help the environment.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Spiffor
All belief systems (be they religions or spiritualities) are trying to explain the world for the human mind, to make out sense out of the world.

Science is not a belief system. The only similarity between science and religion is certain parts of scientific models are taken as true without proof. These are called postulates. However, everything else is just as different as you can get.

In science, people are encouraged to question and be skeptical, in religion, questions are frowned upon and skepticism is a taboo. In science, observations and facts hold primacy. If models don't fit the models are adjusted. In religion, doctrines hold primacy. If reality doesn't fit doctrines reality can go down a flushing toilet.