Mandatory Aug 6 Hiroshima thread

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


That's a very cruel thing to do to your boyfriend.

He's goodlooking. (So's my boyf.)

The lederhosen chap looks like Cary Elwes a bit.

[Agathon]

The bombings may or may not have been justified. Certainly the military bigwigs didn't think it was (even MacArthur, who one would have expected to be all for it).

But what's distastefull is the Americans celebrating it like it was a good thing. Both were black days for humanity, and the Enola Gay should have been scrapped and melted down.

[Verto]

Stop whining. The bombings were the lesser of two evils in the context of the war, and when compared to other options in the eyes of the leadership in the 1940s, were a good thing.

What is distasteful is how some people try to portray the bombings as an act of unnecessary bloodlust, as if the Axis had done nothing to provoke the decision.

[BeBMan]

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[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Agathon
The bombings may or may not have been justified. Certainly the military bigwigs didn't think it was (

I suspect that the military leaders and the politicians didn't really comprehend what the atomic bomb could do. They probably thought it was just a big bomb. But when they saw that a single bomb could wipe out an entire city, they initially would ahve thought, this is power, we have to have more of these bombs. But when other countries built the a-bomb, people realized it would not be a good thing to ever use the bomb.

That's why dropping the bomb on Japan ended up being worthwhile. The world saw how destructive the A-bomb is.

If the bombs had not been dropped on Japan, it would have been dropped somewhere else at some point, and by dropping the bomb on Japan, we avoided a war between two nuclear powers.

[Odin]

Originally posted by Agathon

even MacArthur, who one would have expected to be all for it.

He didn't like it because it deprived him of the glory he thought would get from invading the Home Islands.

The A-bomb was justified. it killed a lot less Japanese civilians than an invasion would of.

[Odin]

Originally posted by Verto

What is distasteful is how some people try to portray the bombings as an act of unnecessary bloodlust, as if the Axis had done nothing to provoke the decision.

[Frankychan]

Originally posted by Agathon
The bombings may or may not have been justified. Certainly the military bigwigs didn't think it was (even MacArthur, who one would have expected to be all for it).

But what's distastefull is the Americans celebrating it like it was a good thing. Both were black days for humanity, and the Enola Gay should have been scrapped and melted down.

Remember when they displayed the airplane and a Japanese widow threw that red jar at the plane? I do. They SHOULD HAVE melted that plane down into scrap.

You ever see the victims of the bombs? I have. The immediate blast killed tens of thousands and the radiation killed even more. My granddad died from cancer caused by the radiation.

Yeah, the bombs might have saved untold lives I understand that. But have some compassion for the victims, eh? Melt the plane down.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Frankychan

But have some compassion for the victims, eh? Melt the plane down.

Did we glass Auschwitz, or did we leave it as a memorial?

[Verto]

Precisely. If we destroy the Enola Gay, does that also mean we need to tear down the concentration camp memorials?

[Frankychan]

Memorials help to remember the dead. The vicitms of the camps have the right to be remembered, but so do the vicitms of the bombs (i.e. the Enola Gay). The plane is celebrated as the end of the war, not about all the vicitms it's payload cost.

The memorials for the camps should remain because of the lives lost, the plane shouldn't. The plane isn't a memorial, it's a celebration.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Frankychan
Memorials help to remember the dead. The vicitms of the camps have the right to be remembered, but so do the vicitms of the bombs (i.e. the Enola Gay). The plane is celebrated as the end of the war, not about all the vicitms it's payload cost.

The memorials for the camps should remain because of the lives lost, the plane shouldn't. The plane isn't a memorial, it's a celebration.

Ever been to the Air&Space Musuem? I'll admit maybe it's changed in the past year or so, but I recall the exhibit stating what the Enola Gay was...and that was it. This was at the Annex they built near Dulles, not the Old Exhibit at the main musuem on the mall.

Just a Sign that said what it was and what it did. No gloating.

[Bereta_Eder]

It belongs in a museum.

[Verto]

Originally posted by Frankychan
Memorials help to remember the dead. The vicitms of the camps have the right to be remembered, but so do the vicitms of the bombs (i.e. the Enola Gay). The plane is celebrated as the end of the war, not about all the vicitms it's payload cost.

The memorials for the camps should remain because of the lives lost, the plane shouldn't. The plane isn't a memorial, it's a celebration.

It should be celebrated as the end of the war, because it was.

[Timexwatch]

Thank god I forgot it was Hiroshima Day. I think wishing the "Mrs." a happy Hiroshima day would've gotten me in a **** load of trouble

Ever been to the Air&Space Musuem? I'll admit maybe it's changed in the past year or so, but I recall the exhibit stating what the Enola Gay was...and that was it. This was at the Annex they built near Dulles, not the Old Exhibit at the main musuem on the mall.

Just a Sign that said what it was and what it did. No gloating.

To this day you will find Japanese tourists all over the Air and Space museum except in the sections about the A-Bomb. Just an oberservation.