Obsession, Dedication or Just Pyschotic

[Tuberski]

Mrs. Tubes was an honorable mention Defensive Back, however..........



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[Flubber]

Originally posted by BlackCat
I've seen some of these parents too - it's pretty sick how they press their children to do something they don't want. Maybe it's their own broken dreams they are trying to live out through their children - not good

Some parents do go to far, true.

But a parent "pressing a child to do something they don't want ??"

Do you mean like

go to bed
eat vegetables
not run in front of traffic
be active

etc etc. parents "make" kids do all sorts of things. My parents "made " me , play ice hockey, take piano lessons and join Boy Scouts to name three. In each case they said I "had to" try it for a year and if I didn't like it, I could quit. It had nothing to do with broken dreams or any of that crap-- My parents just didn't want me to be a pathetic couch potato sitting at home

My son is 2 -- we already MAKE HIM do all sorts of things like gymboree and music class. he seems to like it and even if he didn't, we would probably take him several times to make sure. When he is older, I will take him to some sports-- I'll probably give him a choice and frankly I don't care if he does rugby or rythmic gymnastics, as long as he DOES something.

[Flubber]

Mrs tubes

If this is the high school kid, no one can make him play. If he has guts enough to stand up to his dad and tell the coach he quits , thats the end of this.

But did he say he wanted to play in the first place. Since I know many parents bemoan their children that take something up, have their parents outfit them at great expense and then want to quit. I think there are valuable lessons for children in learning the idea that once you take on a commitment, you are obligated to see it through.

The part I'm not getting is that this boy is big and would likely be good at football. Why isn't he like most boys and at the very least thinking he can milk this for some sexual encounters with cheerleaders. Isn't this Texas where the average player is a stud and the stars are considered gods

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Flubber

Some parents do go to far, true.

But a parent "pressing a child to do something they don't want ??"

Do you mean like

go to bed
eat vegetables
not run in front of traffic
be active

etc etc. parents "make" kids do all sorts of things. My parents "made " me , play ice hockey, take piano lessons and join Boy Scouts to name three. In each case they said I "had to" try it for a year and if I didn't like it, I could quit. It had nothing to do with broken dreams or any of that crap-- My parents just didn't want me to be a pathetic couch potato sitting at home

My son is 2 -- we already MAKE HIM do all sorts of things like gymboree and music class. he seems to like it and even if he didn't, we would probably take him several times to make sure. When he is older, I will take him to some sports-- I'll probably give him a choice and frankly I don't care if he does rugby or rythmic gymnastics, as long as he DOES something.

You surely has misunderstood me I don't mind that parents says "try this or try that and quit if you don't like it" - what I mind is those parents that says "when I was young I was just soo good, but it was hard times so I had to drop it - now, my child has my genes and shall accomplish what was not possible for me". Such parents exist, I have seen several of them and I don't like it.

Somehow I guess that your boy will have a good childhood

[BlackCat]

Dammit. Forgot the veggie part - that is just common sense

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
I always hated sports at school as a kid and no amount of parental 'footstomping' was ever going to change my mind, and never did...

Thats probably unfortunate. Some more physically active hobbies are just plain good for you. Personally I like the idea of encouraging activity rather than forcing it. Encouragement might come in the form of a parent playing with the child (Bicycling, street hockey, table tennis, tossing a softball) or in discouraging other activities (limiting TV or computer time)

[Flubber]

Originally posted by BlackCat


You surely has misunderstood me I don't mind that parents says "try this or try that and quit if you don't like it" -

But the quitting CAN'T be immediate or you are raising a child that learns to quit when things are tough. A new sport/activity can be difficult or frustating and a fair trial involves getting past those most difficult times to see if they enjoy the sport in its fun parts. I imagine football practice is not as much fun as the games and teh early practices are probably a lot of hard conditioning drills.

Originally posted by BlackCat


what I mind is those parents that says "when I was young I was just soo good, but it was hard times so I had to drop it - now, my child has my genes and shall accomplish what was not possible for me". Such parents exist, I have seen several of them and I don't like it.

and I agree completely on that point. I played hockey in Canada and pretty much everything true of football in Texas is also true of hockey in Canada. I saw lots of crazy hockey parents but the majority were pretty normal and just wanted their kids to have fun

Originally posted by BlackCat


Somehow I guess that your boy will have a good childhood

All we can do is try our best. I really have no clue but we are adopting the things we saw that worked best from our own parents. Every day is a learning experience. So far, we have noticed he loves running and jumping ( like most children) but also seems to like music more than most toddlers (so he goes to music class)

Like I say, I have no clue, but if poly survives that long, I'll let you know how it turns out-- in 20 years or so

[Mrs. Tuberski]

Originally posted by Flubber
Mrs tubes

If this is the high school kid, no one can make him play. If he has guts enough to stand up to his dad and tell the coach he quits , thats the end of this.

But did he say he wanted to play in the first place. Since I know many parents bemoan their children that take something up, have their parents outfit them at great expense and then want to quit. I think there are valuable lessons for children in learning the idea that once you take on a commitment, you are obligated to see it through.

The part I'm not getting is that this boy is big and would likely be good at football. Why isn't he like most boys and at the very least thinking he can milk this for some sexual encounters with cheerleaders. Isn't this Texas where the average player is a stud and the stars are considered gods

I Agree with you i told him he made the commitment and money has been spent. My concern is that he did so cause his dad told him a bunch of stuff like hed be doing a lot of yard work and house cleaning if he didnt do this. This is the hi school kid and I told him that hey dude you might like the games and stuff, thing is he isnt a stupid kid. He knows that this is fresh man football team and that nobody gives a hoot bout freshman football. he is only a 9th grader i think my ex is hoping he is so good they bump him to varsity.

[Mrs. Tuberski]

On another note he likes to play the sport he does real good when a group gets together playing around. I think its the practice and structure that is the problem and in which case if i jump in and save him im not doing him any good.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Flubber


But the quitting CAN'T be immediate or you are raising a child that learns to quit when things are tough.

Like I say, I have no clue, but if poly survives that long, I'll let you know how it turns out-- in 20 years or so

I think that we agree on all points - What I meant was try a season or two and if it still doesn't ring a bell, then quit , not quit because it's difficult.

About poly's existence - well, I have three PC's that can run smac/x and I'm gonna nurse them carefully, so yes, Poly still have a chance in twenty years

Remember that you superconsumers - always protect your HW that can run SMAC/X !!! Don't trow out your old 233 MHz win 95 - you'll regret it.

[Odin]

I don't get why parents do crap like this. I'm willing to think it is part of our compitition-obsessed culture, with parents subcounciously using thier kids as pawns to show how good parents they are. In the average American town, athletes are held in higher prestige than kids that are smart students. I remeber seeing the movie Friday Night Lights, a movie about a high school footbal team in Texas. In one of the scenes a guy is listening to a talk radio show where a caller is suggesting sacrificing educational money to increase funding for the football team. That scene left me absolutely stunned and enraged at the same time.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
On another note he likes to play the sport he does real good when a group gets together playing around. I think its the practice and structure that is the problem and in which case if i jump in and save him im not doing him any good.

Ehrm, if you are trying to be a chicken hen mother (probably not understandable, but in danish we have word called such really rough translated ), then get out of it - it's not your turf despites you only wan't to protect your little child.

[Dis]

Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
hey japher i my self am a cheerleader dropout
I am just surprised at the parental force and stuff when it comes to this sports thing

I think it comes from parents want their kids to make up for their shortcomings, or some pscho babble like that.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by BlackCat


Ehrm, if you are trying to be a chicken hen mother (probably not understandable, but in danish we have word called such really rough translated ), then get out of it - it's not your turf despites you only wan't to protect your little child.

In the states it's simply "mother hen".

ACK!

[Kidlicious]

The good news is that your son will become a communist because he was forced into football.

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