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Originally posted by Sn00py
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Paris has the fewest skyscrapers of any major city yet one of the highest population densities.
This is because once you go above around 10 floors, net floor area ratio (usable space) increases very slowly, as services, especially elevators, take up more space, buildings need to be stepped back to meet zoning codes so whole neighborhoods aren't in the shadows all day, structural columns get big, etc.
Net floor area ratios above 10 are exceedingly rare, even in Manhattan.
Typical European blocks of around 8-10 stories, built to the lot lines, and with a light court in the back, get around a net area of 5.Visit First Cultural Industries
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"Dirty"?Originally posted by Sn00py
It's about time London started building skyscrapers, what took them so long?
Though, I do have to say this, New York's city skyline does look dirty; With the new technology we have today, we can build cleaner looking skyscrapers and buildings. So London should end up looking cleaner than New York.
By that do you mean Manhattan is filled with classic, very recognizeable industial era buildings, and not just modern corporate glass and steel towers that make the eyes water and the stomach hurl?
Because if so, you are correct.
Skylines are not just a function of buildings, but of geography- you need to be able to see the buildings in a cluster to have a skyline. For example, from most angles of Chicago's skyline the Sears Towers is absent, because it is set apart from the main areas of high rises.
Manhattan actually has various skylines, you have to be in Queens to actually see both the downtown and midtown skyscrappers in the same field of vision.If you don't like reality, change it! me
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Smiley, I assume from your description that net floor area ratio is calculated as total usable space/footprint?Solomwi is very wise. - Imran SiddiquiComment
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Higher than the Statue of Freedom, rather.Does London have regs like DC that bar buildings beyond a certain height? DC bans buildings higher than the monumentI came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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It doesn't help that nowadays most highrises have the upper 20 "floors" doing nothing but looking pretty. In the picture shown, I doubt the top third of the building has any useful space."The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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Yes, and it works beautifully. IIRC the newest stuff in the actual city of Paris is the Tour Montparnasse (the only huge "skyscraper" in the city) and several high rise apartment buildings constructed in the 1970s (on the size of, say, a casino on the Vegas Strip, I guess...nowhere near the size of a NYC skyscraper.)Didn't Paris just put its bigger buildings in a single district away from most of the historical stuff?
The "skyscraper district" is La Defense, and it has an arch that lines up with the Arc de Triomphe and thus the Champs Elysees.
This picture's kind of too dark but a lot of my other ones are too light to properly see all the way down to la defense. I guess I'll have to go back to get the picture right
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I thought they had taller buildings there, but I have seen other pictures and it looks nice."The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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Gamma adjusted for your convenience, sir.Originally posted by mrmitchell
This picture's kind of too dark but a lot of my other ones are too light to properly see all the way down to la defense.
Paris has it about right for a European city, I agree.
I'm reminded of the old saying that the best view in Paris is not from Tour Eiffel, but actually from the Tour Montparnasse. Why? It's the only place where you don't see the Tour Montparnasse...Attached FilesComment
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Skyscrapers are ugly!!!
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The London skyscrapers crop up in bunches like Canary Wharf or where Bishopsgate will be. Like all buildings in London, they can't obstruct the view of St. Paul's so they, very nicely in my view, serve as a backdrop to the existing city skyline.
And the best part is that we're not building just metal and glass blocks. Someone in the Observer commented that London is starting to look like the European version of Shanghai with its style of skyscrapers.Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
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i hope Prince Charles gets involved in this discussion
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As everyone who has ever watched US movies knows the only thing to be seen in london is Big Ben and red busesSpace is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.
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eh, I don't know if the Shanghai comparison is desirable, they've got some really tacky stuff over there.Originally posted by Starchild
And the best part is that we're not building just metal and glass blocks. Someone in the Observer commented that London is starting to look like the European version of Shanghai with its style of skyscrapers.Visit First Cultural Industries
There are reasons why I believe mankind should live in cities and let nature reclaim all the villages with the exception of a few we keep on display as horrific reminders of rural life.-Starchild
Meat eating and the dominance and force projected over animals that is acompanies it is a gateway or parallel to other prejudiced beliefs such as classism, misogyny, and even racism. -General LuddComment
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